Tom
I am surprised to see you adding to this topic, for someone who moans about this on going debate you are still happy to add your two pennyworth to it. Well good for you.
You work and play to your standards.
As for you not seeing or playing without yardages I expect this is true and would not have the impertinence or arrogance to say so, but clearly its one rule for you and another for me.
Lets me not advise you but tell you that my father and great uncles never used yardage/distance information as we have been discussing on this topic. My father was born in St Andrews and was very well accomplished golfer and swimmer, he taught me golf, so why did he never mention it to me or for that matter to my brother. For something that apparently, well according to you and your friends has been around for a couple of centuries, yet it never was mentioned to me and I have yet to uncover yardage books, old distance markers or anything that relates to this modern idea of yardage information.
Please tell me why they have not been found, why the reports in all the newspapers and magazines did not report this information or publish their own distance guide to give away to golfers way back in the 19th Century if it was so much part of the game then? If there is evidence that they did exist then I will happily accept it but with all my searches I still have not uncovered one yardage book. That might be the reason why my father & uncles left out yardage in their teaching.
As for superior, I don’t think I ever said that. I believe my comment were that we just don’t need distance aids as each golfer has it within him/herself to eyeball the pin and select accordingly. I do not see anything superior in that as we all have that ability. I have said that I for one would feel it unfair to use outside aids and that I would be cheating myself.
Golf has changed over the years, because many want to make it easier,also to accommodate the climate, yet there are still those who play golf in the tropics in the conventional way – no carts etc – I have, my father, my brother as well.
Fine you want to play it your way please do so but to those who believe that golf should be played in the original way, let them do so without doubting or chuckling at their comments. This time Tom it’s you who are out of order, you just could not resist so decided to throw in your little remarks, but why? Actually I’m not interested, because I’m not going to continue this post.
Superior – no, that is in your mind because of some reason or other to assist your argument or distain. As I said how can it be superior if all golfers have the ability to play without aids.
What all of you have totally forgotten is that this is a Discussion Group, which in my view means it’s open to total honest debate – that means freedom to voice ones opinions even if it goes against the majority.
Have fun and enjoy your golf.
Melvyn
PS Tom, There is very little we cannot do if we all work together and want to achieve a certain goal, so as I believe in Man I must believe that we can.
It’s a question of understanding and accepting that there is a problem, before we can all move on to correct it. But can we call yardage a problem - that is the real question. Being totally honest I would say I feel that any outside information should not be allowed in the first place, but now its here all we can do in the short term is to encourage courses to remove all yardage/distance information and lets the individual golfer asset it over say a 6-12 month period.
But yes if there is a will there is certainly a way.