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George Pazin

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Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« on: October 21, 2009, 06:02:48 PM »
Brian is another overseas poster, so take that into account when awaiting his responses! :)

I have known Brian through this site for a long time, and though we've never met, I consider him a good friend. He was in the same program as Martin Bonnar, and I believe Brian introduced Martin to us crazies on here.

Brian has been practicing in Norway, I believe since his graduation. And he has some really top notch playing experiences from trip(s) to the US, and is heading to Australia shortly, so fire away with questions about everything under the sun.

Click HERE to see his website.


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Jeff Brauer

Kyle Harris

Mike Young

Anthony Nysse

Jim Franklin

Phillip Young

Tim Gerrish

Bill McBride

Rich Goodale

Martin Bonnar

Kyle Henderson
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Anthony Gray

Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 07:32:43 PM »

  Brain,

 Thanks for playing.

  At what age did you take up golf?

  I have a good friend from Norway, Isn't it rich with oil?

  What famous people are from Norway that we would be familiar with?

  On the MUPPETS, What is the sweedish chef saying?

  Have you golfed in the States?

  Where did you go to school?

  What threads are your favorites?

  What courses are high on your must play list?

  What is Norwegian Wood?

  Anthony

 

Garland Bayley

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 07:41:40 PM »
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 12:31:36 PM »
Brain,
My Dad calls me Brain, but in jest...
 
Thanks for playing.

At what age did you take up golf?
Great first question!  I used to be an avid Rugby player and played for my Army station every Wednesday.  However, I picked up a knee injury one week and could not play for a while so I had to take time off.  Wednesday afternoon was always training or sports afternoon.  I hate running and training so I conned someone to take me to play golf. 

I was lucky and started to play at Tidworth Garrison (Harry Colt, I believe) golf course for $150 a year and I was hooked.  That was at the age of about 20.  I had played on some courses in Blackpool and actually played Stanley Park a few times when I was about 18 but I just hacked it around so that doesn't really count!

When I moved from Hong Kong at the age of 18 I moved to Lytham St. Annes and my bedsit (that was all I could afford) was right across from Royal Lytham!  I have never played there!



I have a good friend from Norway, Isn't it rich with oil?
Mega rich with oil.  All the profit from the oil goes into what we call the oljefondet (oil fund) and that is at about 472 billion dollars as we speak and rises about $1000 a second. The Norwegians did not hit oil until 1969 and up until then were a pretty poor nation.  That is why it is a very Socialistic nation.  It is more what can we do for the fellow man than how much can we get out of this country.  My wife is a true Socialist and she is married to a Capitalist.

What famous people are from Norway that we would be familiar with?
A-HA the band, Norwegians invented the paperclip and they are very proud of the cheese slicer....I will have to ask the missus about famous people

On the MUPPETS, What is the sweedish chef saying?
I love that guy, I just showed my kids some videos on youtube.  He aint saying shit, pretty much like most Swedes...The Swedish used to be the big brother of Norway, now it is the other way around and the Norwegians are just loving it!!

Have you golfed in the States?
Yes, I am one jammy bastard.  I have played Sand Hills at the last Archipalooza which was just out of this world. I got up at 5am one of the mornings to just look at the course alone and I bunped into one of Tom Doak's senior associates as I was coming back in at about 8am and we both looked at each other and knew how lucky we were to witness such a course in an amazing sunrise.  Pine Valley twice (shot 16 over on the front nine by 3 putting every green then 2 over on the back with a little help from Rocky, Merion a number of times, walked Hidden Creek which is so underrated, Aronomink once, walked Gulph Mills with Tom Paul which was awesome, Lederach (another superb course) with my good friend who never beats me, Kelly Blake Moran and Stonewall which I was not that all impressed with.

Where did you go to school?
Moved to Sabah, Malaysia when I was 5 and was the only white kid at the school, then Hong Kong from 10 til 18, Survey school for 6 months in the Army and then out in the real world before convincing the wife at an age of about 35 with two kids to re-mortgage the house to study in Edinburgh.  Great life but never grew up until I met my wife and had a year at Uni in Edinburgh where the boys put me in my place!!

What threads are your favorites?
All the ones where other architects give opinions, especially the guys who have mentored me like Jeff Brauer and Tom Doak.  Those two really helped me in my career.  I think I am the first person on here to become a GCA because of the site.  I was mentored on here by Jeff and Tom.  I asked them on here about 8 or 9 years ago how to become an architect. Tom and Jeff still look out for me, to this day.

What courses are high on your must play list?
I am off to Aussie in two weeks time on a trip of a lifetime with a bunch of architects from Europe and from America. I think we are 66 in total.  Ian Andrew is going so that will be great to meet him at last.  I am an Associate member of the EIGCA who I had big arguments with on here back in 2000 about the way they were handling students and helped get a few things changed. As Jeff said to me, you cannot change anything from the outside, so I joined the year I graduated which I think surprised many of them.

I would really like to walk Augusta, looking at the old photos of the shaping by MacKenzie I think he gets too much credit sometimes.  A lot of the changes before 90s were good changes like the 11th and 16th ponds. Some of the shaping and the green shapes are awful.

I really would like to see Alison's work in Japan.  I am a huge Colt fan, I don't think Mac even gets close to Colt.  There are a number of crap MacKenzie courses but you nearly never ever find a poor Colt course.

I would like to see Cypress Point to see if it is all aesthetics or it is as good as people say.  I have heard mixed reviews from those that speak to me in private.  Although FBD would live in the bunkers if he was allowed.


What is Norwegian Wood?
It is Pine for furniture and birch for firewood.  What a great song!  The lyrics just sum a very typical night out in Norway if you get lucky.  The women over here are very confident.  If they invite you up for a coffee they mean coffee.  They will let you know if you are lucky or you are sleeping in the bath which is what happened to whichever Beatle wrote the song.  There is very little bullshit with most Norwegians, they take an age to get to know but will never really let you down.

Just read the lyric and it is like going home to a Norwegian girl.

I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me...
She showed me her room, isn't it good Norwegian wood?

She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere,
So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.

I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine,
We talked until two and then she said: "It's time for bed"

She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.
I told her I didn't, and crawled off to sleep in the bath

And when I awoke, I was alone, this bird had flown
So I lit a fire, isn't it good Norwegian wood.

Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 12:36:48 PM »
Brian,

Any comments on this thread?

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,33515.0/

Someone told me those pics had been put up but I never believed them!  It was the first time Graeme and myself worked together on a design.  He did the routing before we set up the Norwegian company Niblick Golf Design in 2004.  The whole area was a peat bog and we had to dig out about 250 000 m3 of it to get to the sand underneath and to create a stable base for fairways.

As Tom Doak mentions it looks hard but it isn't as long as it is not too windy.  Some of the fairways are 60 metres wide.  I will post some construction photos shortly.

It is one of my favourite designs that Graeme and I have done together (he gets the main credit from the owners as he was the Principal Architect but I was on site much, much more than him..   ;D
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Eric Smith

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 12:51:53 PM »
Hi Brian, thanks for participating. Let me say that from the photos I've been looking at, your golf courses look terrific.

Q's

1.  I have wanted to visit Norway since I was a teenager.  I used to pick up those cruise line brochures and just drool over the many pictures of the fjords.  If I were to take my wife on a vacation to Norway and only had a week to visit, what would you recommend on our must-see itinerary.  (Wouldn't be playing any golf, unfortunately.)

2.  What has it been like so far working with Darren Clarke? Would you describe him as a student of architecture? 

3.  Is the game growing in Norway?  What's your favorite course there? 

4.  In your studies to become a gca, were there elements of the curriculum that you didn't agree with philosophically?  Meaning you may have a better or different way to apply golf architecture than others before you?  What do you have up your sleeve Brian?  Given the opportunity and the right client, are you willing to go against the grain and just do it?

5.  Are you looking in on golfclubatlas.com in this picture?  Which thread?



6.  How much do you rely on your associate Graeme? 

Thanks for your answers Brian.

Eric



Sean_A

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 01:41:07 PM »
Brian

I think you are one of the unsung participants on this site.  You seem to offer surprisingly forthright opinions concerning architecture.  I like that sort of thing and learn from it.   

Do you try and get work in the UK?  If so, what type of work and where?

Are you content working out of Norway?  Are there possible plans to shift the business elsewhere in the future?

What are your favourite Colt courses and why?  Which elements of Colt's work do admire the most? 

Ciao

 
New plays planned for 2024: Nothing

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 01:51:47 PM »

Hi Brian, thanks for participating. Let me say that from the photos I've been looking at, your golf courses look terrific.
Thanks for the compliments.  We get to blast a lot of rock in Norway which is fun!!  We have been given some great sites over the years (just crap budgets) and hopefully in the next two weeks we will have another stunning one that I can share with you guys

1.  I have wanted to visit Norway since I was a teenager.  I used to pick up those cruise line brochures and just drool over the many pictures of the fjords.  If I were to take my wife on a vacation to Norway and only had a week to visit, what would you recommend on our must-see itinerary.  (Wouldn't be playing any golf, unfortunately.)
If you were coming in the summer then I would spend a day and a night in Oslo.  Visit the Vigeland Park



then I would go to the Kon Tiki museum.  In the late afternoon I would have a late lunch at Aker Brygge near the docks.  In the evening I would just walk with your wife all over Oslo in the midnight sun.

Then get the train to Bergen which is absolutely fabulous with some fantastic views.  Snow still on the mountains in June. Bergen is a stunning and quite beautiful town full of noisy Bergen people who are not normal Norwegians.

If you then a have more days take the Hurtigruten ship up the coast and in and out of the fjords. See this link for more details and photos. Quite unbelievable. http://www.hurtigruten.no/Norge/ This is the postal ship that collects and delivers all the post to the different villages up the coastline.  To make it viable they now have tourists on board to help finance the boats.


2.  What has it been like so far working with Darren Clarke? Would you describe him as a student of architecture? 
I would be lying if I knew.  He has been on site twice and both times I missed him and he worked with Graeme.  Both him and Graeme get on well and he has his opinions on bunker placement etc but I do not think he is a huge student of the art. I am working on the grading plan now to get it done so that Darren can voice over the design on a Fly Over video of the course.  Again, the routing has been done by Graeme and I have been involved with the details of the micro design (bunkering positions, green slopes etc in the office and 3 site visits with Graeme)

3.  Is the game growing in Norway?  What's your favorite course there? 
The game was growing tremendously in the late 90's and early 00's but it has slowed up now as membership has hit a plateau.There are more courses in Norway than in Portugal if you include all the nine hole courses as well.  Over 120 courses at the moment.  My favourite courses would be Oslo and Stavanger (which we have just finished re-designing) as they are very much designed in a heathland style which I love.  The top ranked course is Miklagard designed by RTJ2 but I do not like it and it feels like playing the same 6 holes over and over again.  It has no soul, technically very good design but no soul. Typical tour event golf course.

4.  In your studies to become a gca, were there elements of the curriculum that you didn't agree with philosophically?  Meaning you may have a better or different way to apply golf architecture than others before you?  What do you have up your sleeve Brian?  Given the opportunity and the right client, are you willing to go against the grain and just do it?
The course is very geared towards what the EIGCA believe in and that is designing by drawings and good specifications.  I believe the best courses are built with your shapers, finishers and project managers on site all the time.  If we spent more time on site than in the office getting bidding papers done there would be more great courses out there. 

I remember being interviewed by the Education Panel on my dissertation, I was up for getting a Distinction for my Masters.  They asked me what I had learned the most on the course and I explained that draughting had been very important as well as the process of Landscape Analysis. 

However, I made a huge mistake by saying that I would never bother doing a Landscape Analysis on paper and if I had to I would get a Landscape Architect to do it!  It is in your head and I really believe in the book Blink! by Malcolm Gladwell that if you over analyse situations you can end ruining the the right answers that come in a moments thought.  I don't believe in putting all the Landscape Analysis down on paper.  They were not amused and I apparently did not get the Distinction because of it...I missed out by 0.4% over the whole year.... >:(

I needed the course because I knew how to build and construct golf courses (I was doing that already) but I did not know how to draw them.  Even though I still do not like drawing greens to 20cm contours I still have to do it now and then.  I am redesigning a green at Losby golf course in Oslo at the moment and they want everything in 3D so I have to do that way for the board before we are allowed to start shaping.

Given the right client I believe I can design a world class golf course but I need the right budget, the right client and the right site.  You also need a great team on site, without them you are screwed!  Tom Doak has done his best work after Jim Urbina came on board and he appreciates that as does Jim appreciate Tom the other way. I also believe the Ben Crenshaw quote about what creates a great golf course, "Time".  Too many projects are rushed these days because the accounting is shot to pieces and they need the course opened.  We built a course last year and in Spring this year, it was seeded in June, they opened for play in September.  That to me is crazy.

I would love to work with someone like Mark Parsinen even though he would probably tire you out with his ideas!


5.  Are you looking in on golfclubatlas.com in this picture?  Which thread?

I hate that picture...it just is not me.  I am a scruffy git most of the time and I hate shaving after 4.5 years in the Royal Engineers. i prefer being on site than anywhere else.

6.  How much do you rely on your associate Graeme? 
Graeme and I are very different when it comes to designs and maybe that is why it works.  He likes clean cut bunkers whereas I like the rough look (back to hating shaving).  I like quirky sometimes unfair design; he likes fair design, everything out in front of you.  He enjoyed working with Jack Nicklaus on the Ury Estate project South of Aberdeen, I am not sure I would have. 

I can place bunkers just because they fit in a hillside (much like Colt did) whereas Graeme measures off many of his bunkers.  He calls me the fairway bunker man and I call him the greenside man.  I have learnt a lot from him about green designs that is for sure and he has learnt a lot from me about timekeeping!!  ;D  He is awful at turning up on time and I even lie to him sometimes about the timings of meetings just to make sure he gets there on time.

To sum up he would like to be like Jack and I would like to be like Tom.  A pretty good combination...
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 02:09:16 PM »
I think you are one of the unsung participants on this site.  You seem to offer surprisingly forthright opinions concerning architecture.  I like that sort of thing and learn from it.    
Thanks Sean.  I had an argument with one of my old mentors in Heavy Construction about honesty.  I always have this habit of telling the client what I thought.  One day he says to me "you have to stop doing that."  I say "I am just being honest" he replies slowly without lifting his head "no, you are being stupidly honest"

Do you try and get work in the UK?  If so, what type of work and where?
Graeme my partner who owns Team Niblick does all of the work in Scotland but I really want to work on the Colt courses that are in need of being returned to the Colt style and I believe with the crew of shapers and finishers we have that we really could do some fantastic renovation work.  I have not really tried to promote us in England but might do in the near future.

Are you content working out of Norway?  Are there possible plans to shift the business elsewhere in the future?
We have a monster project in Lisbon, Portugal at the moment that is waiting for planning permission.  I am looking forward to that as a competitor went on site and said it could not be done.  I managed to get a par 71 without breaking any safety margins but I was honest with the client and told them that they would need milions to build it.  They still want to go ahead.

I will work anywhere.  I would love to work in China or Malaysia just to go back to my childhood and live in Asia again.

I will work anywhere to be honest, I have a great wife whose father also owned his business so she understands "overtime" which is great!


What are your favourite Colt courses and why?  Which elements of Colt's work do admire the most?  
My favourites would be Pine Valley, Swinley Forest and St. Georges Hill.  I have not played Rye but there is not much of him left there anyway.  

I think his greens do not get enough credit.  They are very subtle almost like a softer version of Perry Maxwell or C&C greens at Hidden Creek.  I love Hidden Creek as it has Colt all over the design without Bill and Ben really knowing it I think.  Colt never seemed to kick the arse out of his green designs because he did not have to, they were good enough without shouting at you.

His fairway bunkering is very clever as well most of the time.  Hit fits the bunkers in at places where they seem to belong and then everything else seems to flow around them.  Even when they do not seem to be interfering with your line of play or lay area they still play with your mind.

So I admire his greens and fairway bunkering the most.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2009, 02:13:11 PM by Brian Phillips »
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 02:16:53 PM »
I have known Brian through this site for a long time, and though we've never met, I consider him a good friend. He was in the same program as Martin Bonnar, and I believe Brian introduced Martin to us crazies on here.

It is true that George I and have never met but he is yet another that always encourage me to keep following my dream and I thank him for that.

Bonnar owes me soooo many pints for encouraging him on here.  He used to cause me so much grief for being on here during my year with him at Uni but now he is converted.  Especially after all the people he has met and the courses he has played.
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

David_Tepper

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2009, 02:36:09 PM »
Brian -

One of the public television stations in the San Francisco area has shown a few "Varg Veum" mysteries, which are set in Bergen, over the past couple of months. How popular is Varg Veum in Norway?

DT

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 02:39:55 PM »
One of the public television stations in the San Francisco area has shown a few "Varg Veum" mysteries, which are set in Bergen, over the past couple of months. How popular is Varg Veum in Norway?

David,  he is huge.  The films are supposedly very, very good.  I have never seen one or read any of the books!
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

David_Tepper

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2009, 02:48:40 PM »
Brian -

I will save the Varg Veum episodes on our DVR recorder. You can come over and watch them if you ever come to San Francisco! ;)

DT

Marty Bonnar

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2009, 03:08:14 PM »
I have known Brian through this site for a long time, and though we've never met, I consider him a good friend. He was in the same program as Martin Bonnar, and I believe Brian introduced Martin to us crazies on here.

It is true that George I and have never met but he is yet another that always encourage me to keep following my dream and I thank him for that.

Bonnar owes me soooo many pints for encouraging him on here.  He used to cause me so much grief for being on here during my year with him at Uni but now he is converted.  Especially after all the people he has met and the courses he has played.


I owe YOU Pints??? YOU owe me so much red wine for the YEARS of agony you have caused me to endure here!!! ;D

I need to tell GCA that Brian is a really great mate, playing partner and, above all, an INCREDIBLE voice of reason and common-sense. Let me explain: He and I come/came to architecture from such WILDLY differing backgrounds and viewpoints that you'd be hard pressed to see how we could ever see things similarly, but, I think it would be fair to say that we eventually came to a mutual understanding which I know totally enhanced my knowledge and I hope did his too.

Brian has what I can only describe as a true feeling for - 'The Dirt'. He just soooo gets it. His approach to design, and especially construction, taught me so much about how to design for the real world and to think about the game and how it's played. I suppose I come from the artsy-fartsy side of things and always want to look at deep symbolism, accurate historical reference and true 'meaning'. Lovely in it's place, but bloody useless in the real world! So, Brian, many thanks for being such a REAL influence on me!!!

Right, enough of the love-in. Here's the real deal....

Q.1: Still off the sauce?

2: Favourite moment from the 'Year'?

3. Most over/under-rated course you've played?

4. Best teeniest detail you've EVER seen?

5. Pine Valley? Too much Sand? Just Toooooo Hard?

6. Care to tell GCA your kids names??? (again?)

7. Who would you have voted the 'Best Student' of our year? (not YOU, you fool!!!)

8. Why doesn't Graeme spend any time here?

9. How much does a pint cost in Norway these days????

10. When ya getting back here next???

very best,
FBD.
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Andrew Brown

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2009, 03:10:47 PM »
Brian,

I do believe you and I live in the same country....the same town in fact.....

I was at the AGM at Moss & Rygge GC a couple of years back when you gave a spirited defence of the architects design intentions for the 12th - and how the committee moving the yellow tees back from the 320 to 360 mark changes the playing essence of the hole...I also liked your precis on the digging of the "burn" across the 18th...

However....we've not met, but I hope to catch up with you in person sometime when you're not travelling....and ask you a million questions about GCA.

Enjoy Australia. It's God's Country.

Regards
Andrew Brown
Moss, Norway

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2009, 03:27:21 PM »
Brian
What is your partner Mr. Websters view of this forum , and your participation on it ?

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2009, 03:35:29 PM »
Q.1: Still off the sauce?
Yes, I am still off the alcohol.  It is now nearly 2.5 years since I quit and one of the best decisions I ever made. It is really weird as I thought I would struggle with it as I loved Single Malts and Red wine...as you know Marty!

2: Favourite moment from the 'Year'?
There are so many but I really enjoyed our week down in London as well as the week up in St. Andrews.  The week in St.Andrews was such a "get to know each bonding time" that I would probably have to choose that.  Ronan and I had a long weekend up at Dornoch with Rich Goodale and Co and that will go down in my memory for years.

3. Most over/under-rated course you've played?
Overated: The Belfry....what a load of crap.  Although I never played Hidden Creek I think it is under-rated of the ones that I have played probably Aronimink.

4. Best teeniest detail you've EVER seen?
The way Tom Doak and his team have integrated the first tee at The Renaissance Club onto the Putting Green.  I was stunned when I saw it and in awe.  I hate his team!  You can place the tee blocks anywhere you want over half the putting green and it works.

5. Pine Valley? Too much Sand? Just Toooooo Hard?
I have played the course twice.  The first time I shot 16 over on the front nine and 2 over on the back nine.  The course can be had big time by a long good player.  I also played with my good friend architect Jeremy Turner and he landed in every piece of wasteland possible because he hits a "caddie killer" low running drive.  He just thumped a 5 wood out of there every time and loved it.

6. Care to tell GCA your kids names??? (again?)
Both my kids are named after Swedish golfers Annika and Jesper.  My wife knew about the first name Annika but I conned her into the second one as I convinced my daughter to help name him after a character in a childrens's book.  My wife only found out about 5 years ago!

7. Who would you have voted the 'Best Student' of our year? (not YOU, you fool!!!)
Without doubt it was me but after me Young Tom impressed me the most.

8. Why doesn't Graeme spend any time here?
Graeme hates me sending anything by email as he only types with one finger, he still doesn't use a the directory in his telephone...useless old git.  There is no way he would manage on here.

9. How much does a pint cost in Norway these days????
The pint is now up to $14.  Thank god I quit!


10. When ya getting back here next???
Might be back next week or after the 15th of November to tweek the Darren Clarke course with Graeme

very best,
FBD.
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Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Brian Phillips

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2009, 03:42:45 PM »
Brian,

I do believe you and I live in the same country....the same town in fact.....
That is unreal... ;D

I was at the AGM at Moss & Rygge GC a couple of years back when you gave a spirited defence of the architects design intentions for the 12th - and how the committee moving the yellow tees back from the 320 to 360 mark changes the playing essence of the hole...I also liked your precis on the digging of the "burn" across the 18th...
It is a true example of a committee messing with a good design when not needed.  They could have drained the 18th without ruining a great risk and reward Par 5.  How you can have a blind stream behind a bunker when it was not there in the first place is beyond me.  For the price of 100 metres of drainage they could have got Jeremy back to help with the problem but as usual they think they know better.

I wish they would also use more resources to mow the fairways wider but they seem obsessed with making the course harder for some ridiculous reason.  We used 5.5 hours to play a scramble tournament on Saturday...5.5 hours, it felt like suicide at the end.  And they wonder why golf is dying.


However....we've not met, but I hope to catch up with you in person sometime when you're not travelling....and ask you a million questions about GCA.
Andrew, you have to come around and borrow some of my books.  Ask Marty what he thinks of my library!  I would love to play a round with at Evje.  I am really looking forward to Aussie!
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2009, 03:45:01 PM »
Brian
What is your partner Mr. Websters view of this forum , and your participation on it ?

Brian, he shakes his head pretty much every time I am on here.  He is terrified that I am going to land us in trouble... ;D  He isn't as bad as you think Brian and he is a nice guy even though you don't really like his work.  I am slowly changing him....honest!
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Brian_Ewen

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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2009, 05:59:12 PM »
He isn't as bad as you think Brian and he is a nice guy even though you don't really like his work.  I am slowly changing him....honest![/color]

I hope so .......  ;)

Brian , do you think Graeme's style has changed since the move to Norway ?

I do admit , from photographs , the courses you have built in Norway interest me .

Brian Phillips

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2009, 10:25:01 AM »
Brian , do you think Graeme's style has changed since the move to Norway ?

I do admit , from photographs , the courses you have built in Norway interest me.
Definitely.  I have taught him a lot about the history of the game, the different types of designs that are actually out in the world.  he makes more effort to travel to see courses now even though he still visits too many resort courses for my taste.

He now knows a lot more about different architects and their styles.

I have got him away from the pot bunker style that he used to like using on every course he did, he was ingrained in that style.  I got him to come with me to the States and we visited the courses I mentioned above.

I have managed to get him to not design too many stepped greens.  I don't like them as I feel they do not fit in the landscape.

I think he would be the first to admit that I have influenced him in his design work but he has also influenced me especially around the greens.  I was much too penal in designs before I met Graeme.  He taught me to create wider areas around the greens.

I wish he would read more about golf course design but he says he does not have time...ahem, ahem and I look forward to the day when he can type with more than one finger!
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2009, 11:07:51 AM »
Brian,

Your mention of your appreciation of Colt sent me to amazon.com, and the search function here. Creating Classics is available on amazon, but does not get good reviews here. Do you have other recommendations for reading about Colt and his work?
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2009, 11:40:51 AM »
Brian,

Your mention of your appreciation of Colt sent me to amazon.com, and the search function here. Creating Classics is available on amazon, but does not get good reviews here. Do you have other recommendations for reading about Colt and his work?

Creating Classics is an awful, awful book.  I own a copy of Colt & Co. which is a fascinating read if you like Colt, however, there really is not too much information in there about his work or ideals.  You do get a feel for the honesty and integrity of the man though.  I feel he was a true gentleman.  I never get the impression of that from MacKenzie's writing.  How can a man who was born in Yorkshire and lived in England most of younger life suddenly get a Scottish accent...?

You can borrow Colt & Co. off me if you want if we can find a way of making sure it doesn't get lost.

Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2009, 01:15:51 PM »
These questions are for both Brian and Martin:

After spending some time in the industry, what changes would you recommend for the program? Would you recommend the program for others?

Thanks.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

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Re: Starting Thurs., 10/22: Get To Know Brian Phillips
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2009, 01:21:23 PM »
Brian,

Your mention of your appreciation of Colt sent me to amazon.com, and the search function here. Creating Classics is available on amazon, but does not get good reviews here. Do you have other recommendations for reading about Colt and his work?

Creating Classics is an awful, awful book.  I own a copy of Colt & Co. which is a fascinating read if you like Colt, however, there really is not too much information in there about his work or ideals.  You do get a feel for the honesty and integrity of the man though.  I feel he was a true gentleman.  I never get the impression of that from MacKenzie's writing.  How can a man who was born in Yorkshire and lived in England most of younger life suddenly get a Scottish accent...?

You can borrow Colt & Co. off me if you want if we can find a way of making sure it doesn't get lost.



Brian,

That's a generous offer. But, I am a patient man and will wait to see what Paul Turner comes up with.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

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