Thanks Mike, I went back and read that earlier thread and two of the complaints were the trees and the lush rough keeping balls out of the traps. While the course is not bare of trees now, they certainly have a lot less than when the pictures were taken on that thread. I heard they took over 500 out this winter alone and the course looks better for it. As for the rough keeping balls out of the bunkers, that still happens, however it does not leave an easy shot, so maybe they do that on purpose.