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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2020, 09:25:40 AM »
Cragsmer CC, a John Van Kleek design on Lookout Mountain.

May 1, 1927 Chattanooga Daily Times -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2020, 09:35:43 AM »
Herbert Fowler's Capitola G&CC courses.

Sept. 2, 1921 El Patio -





June 30, 1923 Santa Cruz Evening News -



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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2020, 09:40:12 AM »
Seth Raynor's second course for the Del Monte Hotel.

July 11, 1925 Los Angeles Times -



1925 Plan -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2020, 09:45:53 AM »
William Watson's El Sobrante GC in Richmond.

Nov. 11, 1928 Oakland Tribune -



May 26, 1929 Oakland Tribune -





June 20, 1929 Berkeley Daily Gazette -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2020, 09:52:59 AM »
Another W. Bell project, Irvine Beach and CC, which started its life as Rock Island CC.

July 14, 1927 Santa Ana Register -



April 2, 1928 Los Angeles Evening Express -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2020, 10:00:06 AM »
La Canada CC in Flintridge was to be built by Willie Hunter.  The use of the word "flivvered" in the last article was a lesson in early 20th century slang.

Dec. 11, 1923 Los Angeles Times -



March 5, 1924 Los Angeles Times -



Dec. 17, 1930 Los Angeles Evening Express -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2020, 10:04:06 AM »
Mountain View CC in Los Angeles was supposed to be a massive five course project.  As noted in the Dec. 17, 1930 article above, it never came to fruition.

Jan. 25, 1924 Van Nuys News -



March 22, 1924 Los Angeles Times -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2020, 10:08:41 AM »
Everyone should know the Seth Raynor story with the Olympic Club.

March 1918 The Olympian -







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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2020, 10:16:57 AM »
If you search around you can find some discussion of Raynor doing a plan for a course in Santa Barbara around the same time he was visiting Olympic.  The details of that story remain a mystery.
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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2020, 10:25:52 AM »
The story of MacKenzie and Hunter at Woodside CC is best told in this In My Opinion piece by Gordon Ratliff:

https://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/gordon-ratliff-mackenzie-woodside-cc/
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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2020, 10:30:31 AM »
A 1922 Devereux Emmet in Greenwich, CT called Dingletown CC.

June 1, 1922 New York Herald -




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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2020, 12:51:09 PM »
If the 1925 article below is correct, William Langford designed the Atlantic Beach course in Jacksonville, FL in 1913 which was never constructed.

March 25, 1925 Palm Beach Daily News -






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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2020, 01:01:21 PM »
The Life and Work of Wayne Stiles by Mendik and Labbance contains a listing of Stiles and Van Kleek projects.  It includes the following Design Only projects in Florida:

Bel-Mar CC, Tampa - 1931
Bithlo CC, Bithlo - 1930
Carlton Club, Lake Wales - 1931
Druid Hills, Lakeland - 1931
Eagle Haven CC, Winter Haven - 1931
Lake Placid Club, Lake Placid - 1931 - 45 holes
Pensacola Beach, Pensacola Beach - 1931
Ponce de Leon, Ponce de Leon Shores - 1931 - 36 holes
Tampa Municipal Course, Tampa - 1927 - 36 holes
Tampa Shores CC, Tampa - 1930
West Plant City CC, Plant City - 1931

I don't believe the 1931 date ascribed to many of these projects to be entirely accurate.  The only two articles I've found relating to any of these projects are noted below.

Jan. 28, 1930 Pensacola News -



Dec. 23, 1927 Tampa Times -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2020, 01:05:30 PM »
Anthony Pioppi discovered the 1923 plans for Raynor's Coral Keys Club a while back.



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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2020, 01:09:52 PM »
Donald Ross was on tap to design the Dunedin Municipal course.

May 8, 1926 Tampa Times -



May 9, 1926 Tampa Tribune -



Aug. 30, 1926 Tampa Bay Times -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2020, 01:20:56 PM »
When Seth Raynor built the Palm Beach Winter Club course, often referred to in the press as the New Everglades Club and now known as North Palm Beach CC, plans were for 36 holes.

Nov. 15, 1925 Palm Beach Post -



Dec. 12, 1925 Palm Beach Post -



Dec. 31, 1925 Palm Beach Post -



Feb. 21, 1926 Palm Beach Post -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2020, 01:27:24 PM »
The Dec. 12, 1925 article above makes note of the Blue Heron Hotel project at Cragin Park, another Raynor design.

Aug. 21, 1925 Palm Beach Post -





Dec. 20, 1925 Palm Beach Post -



March 12, 1926 Evening Post -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2020, 01:32:39 PM »
Another Florida Ross, this time at Lake Butler.

Sept. 25, 1925 Bradford County Telegraph -





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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #93 on: January 30, 2020, 01:37:49 PM »
Although the Ross involvement with the CC of Orlando has been a matter of debate on these pages, Ross was engaged at one point to work on a project in Orlando at Windemere.

Jan. 20, 1925 Orlando Evening Star -





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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2020, 10:18:34 AM »
When Ross built the Warm Springs course for FDR, the initial plans called for 36 holes.  Only 9 were built.

June 17, 1926 Anniston Star -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2020, 10:23:36 AM »
Still in Georgia, when the city of Savannah decided to invest in municipal golf in 1925, Ross was brought in to lay out four 18 hole courses.  Only two of the four were built.

April 16, 1927 New York Evening Post -



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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2020, 10:28:49 AM »
An ambitious Bendelow project in Louisville, KY from 1907 for the Glenview Land Company.

Feb. 1907 Golf Magazine -




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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #97 on: January 31, 2020, 10:31:57 AM »
A second 18 hole course for Louisville CC designed by Walter Travis.

June 15, 1924 Courier-Journal -



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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #98 on: January 31, 2020, 10:34:54 AM »
Willie Park designed a municipal course for Springfield, MA which was never built.

April 6, 1924 Hartford Courant -



March 18, 1925 Boston Globe -

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Re: What Might Have Been
« Reply #99 on: January 31, 2020, 10:37:37 AM »
A second 18 hole course for Indian Spring GC in Laurel, MD to be designed by Donald Ross.

March 5, 1922 Washington Herald -

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