Barney,
JakaB said...
"...so I forgive you for being an idiot."
Wow, that's a mature way to have a discussion.
You forgive me for being an idiot because I am young, yet you have no other weapons in your debate style than to name call like a 12 year old. Well, call me an idiot all you want. Obviously, the only way for you to win a debate is to derail it.
JakaB said...
"Whatever money the top 100 classic courses in this country spend so they make their members fell better about themselves has no bearing on me or anyone I know"
I think it's fine that you believe this. I have no problem with you disagreeing with my stance. However, it's not only the Top 100 courses that are changing their courses. It is all the new courses being built to extreme length to try to fit this modern image of what a golf course has to be in order to combat longer drives. It also is affecting numerous courses built pre-1990 to build new tee boxes and the like.
Whether you want to believe it or not, by adding length to an existing course or by building new courses that are longer, you drive up the price of the game in all aspects. A round of golf takes longer to play as well. Also, using golf carts are more common than walking.
Maybe this doesn't affect you at Victoria National but it does affect many golfers around the globe. Most golfers are ignorant to the facts and don't realize they are shelling out their dough to, not only these "new and/or improved" golf courses, but to equipment manufacturers whos' only concern is to turn a higher profit this quarter than they did last quarter.
The interest of the equipment manufacturer isn't the game of golf, it's the game of greed. It's all about who can build bigger and better drivers, longer and straighter balls, easier and easier equipment to use, all in the name of "the golfer"at higher and higher prices. Well, put simply, the "golfer" is getting bent over.
Some "golfers" are unknowingly being screwed because they haven't put two and two together which I like to refer to as the group of "golfers" that are being drugged and date raped. Then there are those like you who knowingly and willingly embrace this new technology which I like to refer to as the "drop the soap on purpose and see what happens" group of golfers.
JakaB said...
"Please tell me how hitting the ball almost as good as I did in my youth hurts my exerience...and don't bother waiting 19 years to tell me."[/b]
First off, it took me less than two hours.
Secondly, it may not hurt your golfing experience because you have shown that your enjoyment is more or less based on performance. If it weren't based on performance alone then I don't see why you would have such a huge problem with aging and the realities that come with it. It reminds me of those guys that buy Porshes during their mid-life crisis to make them forget thy're fat and bald and want bigger dicks. Maybe you're going through golf's version of mid-life crisis.
Is golf nothing more than how far you hit it or what you shoot? When we played at Pajaro you were doing nothing but praising how fun it was to play golf with persimmon drivers and balatas on a golf course built to be played with that equipment. It was a lot of fun. You even agreed, so why the argument now?
I'm not telling you to not play your new equipment, I'm just telling you that I think it will fundamentally change the sport into a game that few will be interested in. Maybe you'll still love it and that's where you want golf to go. Good luck in that endeavor.
If you did some real research you'd find that many of the facts in Geoff's book are factual. The sport of golf is losing 500,000 golfers a year right now. That may not seem like much but it is huge. I think this number will continue to grow even with a strong economy.
What may be right for John Kavanaugh is NOT good for the GAME.
Jeff F.