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John Morrissett

In defense of The Prince Course, Hawaii
« on: July 30, 1999, 08:00:00 PM »
John V:I was surprised by your post under "most disappointing golf experience" that you selected The Prince.  I agree that Kapalua's Plantation is the pick of the lot, but the Prince has a lot to recommend it.Perhaps my favorable reaction was due to lower expectations -- I knew it would be pretty and difficult but wasn't sure the quality would be there.  (Plus, coming from NJ in March, it seemed like heaven!)  The par threes are a terrific set, although I bet the 14th can be somewhat silly from the back tees in the wind) and the two-shotters hold their own -- they don't rely on sheer length for difficulty.  As you state, the number of times you are forced to lay up off the tee is frustrating -- the four par fives plus the 13th, which might be the most vexing of all them as, even after a perfect tee shot, you will have at least 170 uphill to a difficult target. The Prince course takes the player on a good tour of the property, showing off its best attributes -- there is the ocean on the 6th and 7th, the high plains of 2-5, 9-11 and 17-18 and the holes in what feels like a rain forest -- 12, 13 and 15.  This variety of "looks" gives it a big edge in my book over many others.  One most aggrevating feature is that the course is basically un-walkable -- the starter told us he could count on one hand the number of people who had successfully walked all 18.  What is absurd is that it went up in Golf Digest's rankings because it allows walking -- shouldn't it matter if walking is practicable as well?!?Overall, it provides a good foil for the Plantation course, where the game is not over until you hole out.  At the Prince, the challenge is primarily just getting to the green -- a little like Carnoustie.  I think the Prince would be an outstanding match play course as you have to be on your game to enjoy it with card and pencil in hand.

John V

In defense of The Prince Course, Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 1999, 08:00:00 PM »
John,Perhaps my reaction to the Prince was due to high expectations.  While on Kauai, I had also played Poipu Bay, Kauai Lagoons - Kiele and Wailua.  I felt that I enjoyed all three of them more than the Prince, when I had been expecting it to be the best.  I agree that it would be a good match play course, as a matter of fact I believe I said that when I left the course.  Many very hard courses are good match play courses because you don't have to worry about the really big numbers.  The par 3s were quite good, although as I recall, the last three all had canyons to the front/left of the green which seemed somewhat repetative.  As for par 4s, I like the ones on the front nine after #1 and I liked #18.Other courses in Hawaii that I like better than the Prince include Mauna Kea, Makena South, and Waimea (on the Big Island for a simple relatively inexpensive course.)Others I liked less, but was expecting less were Hapuna and Manele Bay.