Kevin and Dave are good friends and highly accomplished architects. The firm was originally founded by Ron Fream, who was pretty much golf design's original globetrotter, and so, although they are based in Santa Rosa, the vast majority of their work is in different parts of Asia. They did Nine Bridges in South Korea, which is generally regarded as the country's best or second best course, and is a world top 100 fixture. Very low profile back home, very high profile around the world.