[Terry Lavin]

It is certainly capable of being a regular Tour stop.

[Kalen Braley]

I think it would be fun to be member there, the golf would never get boring for sure.

As a high capper it looks like it'd be nice to play once to see what's in the ground and try to figure out those greens.


But pretty sure it'd be a one and done for me, especially given with all the thick stuff and water just off the fairways, my over/under for losing balls would be at least 12, from the red tees. 

[Phil Burr]

The course is well-known as a Nicklaus/Jacklin collaboration.  Precious little seems to be available about Tony’s work as a designer.  I saw a reference to a course in Morocco, but I can’t find a comprehensive list.  I’m hoping that one of the architects or other contributors from the UK might be able to comment on what Tony brought to the pairing.  Much has been written about Jack’s co-design at Sebonack and how that relationship helped create the end result.  I’m curious to learn more about how the collaboration worked in Bradenton.

[William_G]

It is certainly capable of being a regular Tour stop.

more of a Ryder Cup venue I think

[Adam Lawrence]

Here's my piece on the course from 2008.


https://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/the-concession

[Terry Lavin]

My buddy Jeff Rude nicknamed it “The Concussion,”. Jacklin didn’t flinch when told.

[Tommy Williamsen]

I don't know if it's my imagination but the greens looks stupendously quick.

[Tom_Doak]

The course is well-known as a Nicklaus/Jacklin collaboration.  Precious little seems to be available about Tony’s work as a designer.  I saw a reference to a course in Morocco, but I can’t find a comprehensive list.  I’m hoping that one of the architects or other contributors from the UK might be able to comment on what Tony brought to the pairing.  Much has been written about Jack’s co-design at Sebonack and how that relationship helped create the end result.  I’m curious to learn more about how the collaboration worked in Bradenton.

I have never been to The Concession, but it was built right on the heels of Sebonack and lots of people (including everyone I had dinner with on Friday) tells me that its severe greens are an attempt to do the same style we did at Sebonack.


Weirdly, a couple of years before I got the call about Sebonack, I had a call from Tony Jacklin (whom I have still never met) wondering if I could help him on the project. But I told him I could not imagine Jack listening to anything I might say, so it would never work!  Small world, golf is.

[Terry Lavin]

The course is well-known as a Nicklaus/Jacklin collaboration.  Precious little seems to be available about Tony’s work as a designer.  I saw a reference to a course in Morocco, but I can’t find a comprehensive list.  I’m hoping that one of the architects or other contributors from the UK might be able to comment on what Tony brought to the pairing.  Much has been written about Jack’s co-design at Sebonack and how that relationship helped create the end result.  I’m curious to learn more about how the collaboration worked in Bradenton.

I have never been to The Concession, but it was built right on the heels of Sebonack and lots of people (including everyone I had dinner with on Friday) tells me that its severe greens are an attempt to do the same style we did at Sebonack.


Weirdly, a couple of years before I got the call about Sebonack, I had a call from Tony Jacklin (whom I have still never met) wondering if I could help him on the project. But I told him I could not imagine Jack listening to anything I might say, so it would never work!  Small world, golf is.

Great anecdote.

[Carl Rogers]

Is the World Golf a one off and back to Mexico once Corona is over?

[Tom_Doak]

Is the World Golf a one off and back to Mexico once Corona is over?

Ask Doral.  Once you lose your spot on the Tour calendar, there is no guarantee you'll ever get it back.  This is the same sponsor so it's really up to them, but I will bet they liked the field they had this year.

[Anthony_Nysse]

Is the World Golf a one off and back to Mexico once Corona is over?

I remember hearing it mentioned during the telecast that The Concession was substituting for Mexico because for the pandemic.

[AChao]

Hi Niall,


I agree with everything you said and where your going.  The thing with Concession's greens is that they are potentially borderline unplayable for weaker players.  I could see how it would be in sync with your idea of being more fun for weaker players if the greens were both toned down a little and shaped a little differently.  I just think that some of Concession's green complexes put into play doubles and triple-bogeys for weaker players far more quickly than any other course that I've played.

Pretty playable off the tee, but you need to be able to putt, chip, and pitch really well or I could see the course being pretty frustrating.  I sprayed the ball back then, but could chip, pitch, and putt well so I thought the course was really good.  Some might find the green complexes a bit extreme and definitely not designed to be user-friendly for the demographic that probably makes up most of the membership. 

AC


I could be wrong but I suspect you are referring to the membership being older with generally higher handicaps, please correct me if I'm wrong. Going with that assumption for a moment, do you really think it true that...let's call them weaker players.. mightn't enjoy the challenge and get more fun out of green complexes as described even if their scores are higher ?


Niall


 

[Thomas Dai]

A couple of comments based purely on watching on TV -
A) Given in particular the severity of the putting surfaces and the run-off green surrounds how would Nicklaus in his prime (but with modern distances) have gone about playing the course strategy wise?
B) If the course were to be considered for a normal year (ie non-C:19) tournament where would the spectators walk especially given the snappy and slithering beasties that live alongside the course?
And a player observation. McIlroy and Reed appear to be of similar height. Rory these days seems quite a wide fellow yet when seen side-by-side PR looks enormous, nearly Woosnam-esque
Atb

[Carl Rogers]

I wonder how the LPGA would fare there even playing from plus or minus 6300 yards?


The more forward tees would eliminate a lot drives over water, but still a lot elevated greens behind deep bunkers.

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