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Scott Weersing

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New North America golf courses for 2021
« on: November 25, 2020, 08:44:10 AM »
What courses are done and now growing in for a debut in 2021?  (add to the list)
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[/size]Charleston Muni, Charleston, SC, opens in December
[/size]American Links, by Jack Nicklaus in Michigan
[/size]Belmont Golf Course, by Davis Love III in Richmond, VA
[/size]Peter Hay course at Pebble Beach, by Tiger Woods
[/size]Brambles, Middletown, CA, Coore and Crenshaw
[/size]Corica, North Course, Alameda, CA
[/size]Landmand, Homer, NE, King-Collins design
[/size]The Baths of Blackwolf Run, Meadow Valley, near Kohler, WI[/color]
[/size]Quicksand, par 3 course at Gamble Sands
[/size]Dan Hixson's golf course, 10 holes, Roseburg, Oregon


Ronald Montesano

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2020, 08:54:39 AM »
Charleston Muni, Charleston, SC, opens in December
American Links, by Jack Nicklaus in Michigan
Belmont Golf Course, by Davis Love III in Richmond, VA
Peter Hay course at Pebble Beach, by Tiger Woods
Brambles, Middletown, CA, Coore and Crenshaw
Corica, North Course, Alameda, CA
Landmand, Homer, NE, King-Collins design
The Baths of Blackwolf Run, Meadow Valley, near Kohler, WI
Quicksand, par 3 course at Gamble Sands
Dan Hixson's golf course, 10 holes, Roseburg, Oregon
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Brian Ross

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2020, 10:23:12 AM »
Park Mammoth Golf Club in Park City, Kentucky
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2020, 10:24:42 AM »
I will be interest4ed to see the Belmont Course. Originally designed by Tillinghast it will become a 12 hole course with a 6 hole par three course.


http://www.playbelmontrva.org/
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Tom_Doak

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2020, 11:09:13 AM »
What courses are done and now growing in for a debut in 2021?  (add to the list)


Charleston Muni, Charleston, SC, opens in December
American Links, by Jack Nicklaus in Michigan
Belmont Golf Course, by Davis Love III in Richmond, VA
Peter Hay course at Pebble Beach, by Tiger Woods
Brambles, Middletown, CA, Coore and Crenshaw
Corica, North Course, Alameda, CA
Landmand, Homer, NE, King-Collins design
The Baths of Blackwolf Run, Meadow Valley, near Kohler, WI
Quicksand, par 3 course at Gamble Sands
Dan Hixson's golf course, 10 holes, Roseburg, Oregon



I visited Landmand in October and they had only grassed a couple of fairways, so I don't think it will open in 2021.  I haven't seen Brambles but the pictures I've seen don't show anything being grassed there yet, either, so 2021 is optimistic for that as well.


I also saw Gil Hanse's course in Nebraska, the Caprock Club, and that one SHOULD be ready to play sometime next summer.  Also both courses at PGA Frisco in Texas, judging from Instagram photos.


My only new course this year is St. Patrick's.  I don't think we'll have a course ready to open in North America until 2023, when we will likely have three and maybe four!

Andrew Harvie

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2020, 11:35:33 AM »
I think the only course in Canada slated to open in 2021 is Forest Lakes, a Nicklaus in Nova Scotia. Been very little chatter about it though, so I'm not really sure what's happening with it. It's through a residential community, so I can't imagine people getting too excited about it. Just North of Halifax


edit: Nevermind, they went bankrupt
« Last Edit: November 25, 2020, 02:39:13 PM by Drew Harvie »

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2020, 02:31:42 PM »
Sterling Grove in Surprise, AZ will be open in January. It's in a new Toll Bros residential community in the West Valley of Phoenix so get there before the houses. It's a Nicklaus Design and Troon will manage the course.  It will be private eventually but public play is available until then. 


https://www.sterlinggroveclub.com/golf

« Last Edit: November 25, 2020, 03:05:09 PM by Steve_ Shaffer »
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Jonathan Cummings

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2020, 10:05:22 AM »
I believe Cutalong on Lake Anna, VA will open in the spring (It's been 20 years in the making!!).  Tom Clark with input from Ron Whitten.

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2020, 10:24:55 AM »
I believe Cutalong on Lake Anna, VA will open in the spring (It's been 20 years in the making!!).  Tom Clark with input from Ron Whitten.


Here is a hole by hole look at the course.


https://www.cutalonglakeanna.com/golf-course-lake-anna
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Tim Martin

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2020, 10:59:37 AM »
I think the only course in Canada slated to open in 2021 is Forest Lakes, a Nicklaus in Nova Scotia. Been very little chatter about it though, so I'm not really sure what's happening with it. It's through a residential community, so I can't imagine people getting too excited about it. Just North of Halifax


edit: Nevermind, they went bankrupt


Would have been on the ride to Cape Breton no?

Kris Spence

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2020, 11:30:14 AM »
Quixote Club in SC a collaboration between myself and Jack Nicklaus II will formally open spring 21 tbd.  Owners will allow limited member play starting 12/5

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2020, 02:42:42 PM »
Quixote Club in SC a collaboration between myself and Jack Nicklaus II will formally open spring 21 tbd.  Owners will allow limited member play starting 12/5


Looks like an interesting course and an exciting mission.


https://www.quixoteclub.com/blog
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

"Deep within your soul-space is a magnificent cathedral where you are sweet beyond telling." Rumi

Tom_Doak

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2020, 08:27:44 PM »
Sterling Grove in Surprise, AZ will be open in January. It's in a new Toll Bros residential community in the West Valley of Phoenix so get there before the houses.




Says a lot about the state of golf construction in America that a Toll Bros residential course will probably be one of the top 5 or 10 new courses in America next year -- by default!

Paul Rudovsky

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2020, 11:34:36 PM »
Our list of new projects (see below) also has for '21(in addition to any mentioned above) the following 12 new or full rebuilds:


Holliday Farms-IN (Dye Liddy)
Saskatoon-MI (Albanese Matthews)
Brazen Head-MS (King Collins)
High Hampton -NC (Tom Fazio)
Nine Grand-TX (Nuzzo)
Skamania-WA (Costello)
Sportsmans-IL (Jacobson)
Lake Charles Muni-LA (Blume)
Tower Tee-MO (Schaupeter)
Bob O'Connor-PA (Cervone)
Pioneer Pointe-WI (Lohmann Quitno)
Cabot (St Lucia) (Coore-Crenshaw)

we have for '22: Brambles, Landmand, PGA-East, PGA-West....and we show Hixson's Callahan Ridge in OR for '20

we missed Cutaslong from our list and will add it.

we have 13 more for '22 on the list, etc. (plus renovations and restorations...and everything announced to date that we are aware of).


The list of new projects started with 10 projects in April 2020, had 150 on May 3 and now has 437 projects worldwide.  It is called TheFescue Database and can be located at https://fescue.github.io/.  We have limited the list to courses opened since 1/1/2019 or projected to open anytime in the future.  To keep it from getting too large and unmanageable, we will move the 2019 openings off the main list (into a secondary historical list) around 12/31/2020...and do this type of paring every year-end.  Projects are added or revised as we learn of them. 

We (Tom Brown of Los Angeles, an anonymous group adding projects, and I) do not want a proprietary list...we have made it openly available as a source for all. 
One thing I can tell you all...keeping up with this quantity of projects is close to impossible for a few people to handle...we need your help!
« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 04:20:31 AM by Paul Rudovsky »

Tom_Doak

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2020, 08:40:55 AM »
Surely there are not 437 projects under construction?


I suppose keeping track of all the ones "in planning" that architects will share is fine, but as any architect will tell you, it will be a good batting average if 2/3 of them ever get finished.  For example there are at least four routings for additional courses at Sand Valley, but no telling which of them ever gets built.  And that's for a client who is pretty reliable!

Paul Rudovsky

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2020, 10:15:32 AM »
Tom--


Absolutely 437...see table below (adds to 434 because I had to do some counting by hand and obviously messed up by 3), but do note the following proviso's and definitions



This covers 2019 and beyond...so almost 2 years of projects are already completed.  Additionally, not all are for the full course...the total includes renovations and restorations as well as new courses and major rebuilds.  So some of these could be just a few holes (or even one hole), or just rebuilding bunkers.


But we would not have 4 different projects for cases like the next Sand Valley course, unless more than one additional course was in the current plans (for example...there are two PGA Frisco TX projects, East and West). 


Finally this is a worldwide list.  In the numbers below USA means the 50 states....it is not North America.  Canada, Mexico, Caribbean, Central Amer, and South Amer are included in O/S (overseas).


One last note...the split between Renovation and Restoration needs work as for a while we were classifying all partial jobs as Renovations.


Hope this excel table comes thru correctly...


DID NOT!!!

1.  can excel tables be inserted in these posts?  can anyone advise how to do so?


2.  in mean time note the following...all based on 434 instead of 437 (counted by hand and messed up by 3):


2019--23 New & major rebuilds; 39 Renovations and Restorations; 62 total
2020--41 New & major rebuilds; 107 Renovations and Restorations; 148 total
2021--51 New & major rebuilds; 71 Renovations and Restorations; 122 total
2022--29 New & major rebuilds; 25 Renovations and Restorations; 54 total
2023--8 New & major rebuilds; 8 Renovations and Restorations; 16 total
2024+--4 New & major rebuilds; 5 Renovations and Restorations; 9 totalDate??--4 New & major rebuilds; 19 Renovations and Restorations; 23 total
Total--160 New & major rebuilds; 274 Renovations and Restorations; 434 total...of 434 (183 are O/S and 251 are USA...New/rebuild is 89 O/S and 71 USA...Reno/Resto geographic split is 94 O/S and 180 USA)
« Last Edit: November 27, 2020, 10:31:44 AM by Paul Rudovsky »

John Nixon

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2020, 11:41:02 AM »
Holliday Farms, in Zionsville, IN. Northeast side of Indianapolis. Pete Dye was working on this, and I assume Tim Liddy has continued to be involved following Mr. Dye's passing. Not sure what stage of construction the course is, but Tim mentioned it to me 2 years ago as something for which the wheels were in motion.

Kalen Braley

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2020, 02:44:09 PM »
Paul,

I've played around with excel in this forum and haven't figured out a way to make it come out right.    Best bet is to take a screen shot, upload to a host site and post it as a jpeg using img tags. Then if anyone wants the file just email it to them.

Kalen

Dave Givnish

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2020, 05:31:17 PM »
Tom -


No intention to hijack this thread, but what did you think of Caprock Ranch? I was told that the site was pretty spectacular for golf, not so much for cattle ranching.

Tom_Doak

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2020, 06:23:34 PM »

No intention to hijack this thread, but what did you think of Caprock Ranch? I was told that the site was pretty spectacular for golf, not so much for cattle ranching.


I promised the superintendent I wouldn't post any pictures of reviews of the course, as his boss wants to decide when to start promoting the course, so I shouldn't say anything here other than to second your description of the site, which I toured 18 years ago.


Many many moons ago, when I was working on a routing for the Old Head of Kinsale, I asked the landowner what he did with it and the answer was that he grazed cows there, but it wasn't good land for that because he lost too many cows over the edge!  [I always thought their logo should be a cow head over heels.]  I guess Caprock would have had that same problem.  IIRC there are six holes on the rim of the canyon.

Troy Miller

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2020, 10:09:12 PM »
Charleston Municipal is a renovation, not a new build, though all of the greens complexes are entirely new in their original locations (with the exception of No.13), I haven't really made any significant routing changes and the course has been there since 1929.  It may boil down to an often debated topic of the definition of a renovation versus a redesign.  One thing I am certain of, it is not a restoration; despite some unfounded claims of Raynor input in the original design. It will indeed open next week, though there continue to be some finish work to be undertaken in through the winter.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2020, 10:11:34 PM by Troy Miller »

Scott_Burroughs

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2020, 02:24:51 PM »

No intention to hijack this thread, but what did you think of Caprock Ranch? I was told that the site was pretty spectacular for golf, not so much for cattle ranching.


I promised the superintendent I wouldn't post any pictures of reviews of the course, as his boss wants to decide when to start promoting the course, so I shouldn't say anything here other than to second your description of the site, which I toured 18 years ago.



I guess they're already doing such:


https://www.caprockranch.com/


Routing, progress pics, membership fees, etc.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2021, 09:43:49 PM »
The previously mentioned Sterling Grove in Surprise, AZ will now open in April.





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Ben Hollerbach

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2021, 09:49:22 AM »
From what I've been told, Landmand is expected to open for early play in September/October of this year.

Joel_Stewart

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Re: New North America golf courses for 2021
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2021, 10:09:18 AM »
I walked around Chuck Corica in Alameda yesterday.  The Covid shutdown put them behind schedule but they hope to have 9 holes ready for preview play later this year.  Yesterday they sodded a number of tees.


Lost Rail outside of Omaha looks like a June 2022 opening. I saw some photos of 50 foot deep ravines with some interesting holes, such as back to back drivable par 4s.

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