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Michael Whitaker

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What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« on: November 14, 2020, 01:11:03 PM »
Rough thick enough to LOSE a ball!!!  :o


The drone video shows every fairway surrounded with serious rough like I’ve NEVER seen at ANGC.


I don’t like it!  :(
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Jim_Coleman

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2020, 03:15:51 PM »
   Too wet to mow?

William_G

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2020, 03:22:33 PM »
rough is irrelevant for today's professionals
It's all about the golf!

Andrew Harvie

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2020, 03:38:59 PM »
rough is irrelevant for today's professionals


Tell that to Bryson's ball on 3 yesterday!

Michael Whitaker

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2020, 04:27:22 PM »
rough is irrelevant for today's professionals

Tell that to Bryson's ball on 3 yesterday!
Exactly! When has a player ever lost a ball just off the fairway in the “second cut?” This is not Merion! Crazy!!!
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

A.G._Crockett

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2020, 06:05:25 PM »
   Too wet to mow?
I suspect that this is the answer.  With elevations like those a ANGC, there are going to be some low spots that are REALLY wet, and it's hard to overstate the amount of rain we've had in the SE over the last few months. 
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

A.G._Crockett

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2020, 06:07:03 PM »
rough is irrelevant for today's professionals


Tell that to Bryson's ball on 3 yesterday!
Bryson's ball wouldn't have been lost with patrons there, wet rough or not.  That was the first thing that Koepka said way back when the Tour was going to resume with no fans; "We're going to lose golf balls!"
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Michael Whitaker

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2020, 06:16:09 PM »
CBS offered a ground level shot (from behind) of DJ's second shot into #2 today (Sat). This is one of the highest elevations on the course. The view showed the "rough" at the bottom of the foreground... it looked at least three inches long! I don't think they didn't mow it due to rain. The ground would not be too wet to mow on top of that hill.


EDIT:  I don't remember the "second cut" ever being more than 1/2 inch or so. Just enough to reduce the spin.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2020, 06:18:25 PM by Michael Whitaker »
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William_G

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2020, 11:20:15 PM »
rough is irrelevant for today's professionals

Tell that to Bryson's ball on 3 yesterday!
Exactly! When has a player ever lost a ball just off the fairway in the “second cut?” This is not Merion! Crazy!!!
whatever, that was extra wet in there on #3, ball found in 3:45 mins, no patrons, not about the rough, get out both of you!!!
« Last Edit: November 14, 2020, 11:32:27 PM by William_G »
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Greg Chambers

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2020, 11:31:15 PM »
The course presents itself better when it’s all the same HOC.  I wish they’d go back to that.
"It's good sportsmanship to not pick up lost golf balls while they are still rolling.”

Mark Fedeli

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2020, 08:25:12 AM »
The course presents itself better when it’s all the same HOC.  I wish they’d go back to that.


I'd love to see them widen back the fairways, eliminate the rough, but also bring the pine needles closer to play in some spots. The pine needles are an iconic part of the course, would rather see more shots from them than from rough.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2020, 01:28:55 PM »
rough is irrelevant for today's professionals


Tell that to Bryson's ball on 3 yesterday!
Bryson's ball wouldn't have been lost with patrons there, wet rough or not.  That was the first thing that Koepka said way back when the Tour was going to resume with no fans; "We're going to lose golf balls!"


Hard to have sympathy here for two reasons:

1)  A shame that guys like Brooks feels the pain of the everyday joe who deals with this on every. single. hole.
2)  Can the pros of all people not make adjustments?  Can they not figure out the rough on certain holes like that spot on #3 is nasty and instead play something to find the short grass?

Tom Bacsanyi

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Re: What’s with the thick rough at the Masters???
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2020, 01:34:12 PM »
The course presents itself better when it’s all the same HOC.  I wish they’d go back to that.


I'd love to see them widen back the fairways, eliminate the rough, but also bring the pine needles closer to play in some spots. The pine needles are an iconic part of the course, would rather see more shots from them than from rough.


Totally agree, also an iconic part of the Masters (when it was wall to wall fairway) was having a very difficult shot with trees in the way, but a fairway lie. This leads the player into more aggressive decisions and more interesting golf.
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