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Tommy Williamsen

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Here I am thinking of things like Pete Dye's use of railroad ties. They were much maligned when he first used them but for a long time they became trademarks until he abandoned them. When I think of him I think of his use of wood in bunkers.


Pat Ruddy uses sleepers in his bunkers at The European Club, much to the distress of some players who find their shot bounding off-line when they are hit. Btw he used them to cut down on bunker maintenance. They are designed also to add shape and texture to the golfscape and show themselves to the player as guides and challenges.  Difficult to show bunkers on links without sandblow consequences but sleepers allow one to get aerodynamics under control.



RTJ used water prolifically.
In GB some course wind their way through the dunes (think Birkdale) and others go up and over them (Lahinch).


What trademarks do you think of when you ponder certain architects and courses.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2020, 09:34:09 AM by Tommy Williamsen »
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2020, 10:31:52 AM »
Driveable par 4 for Morrish-Weiskoph.


Steep banks splitting fw - Nicklaus (early days, not used much any more)


Steep bank sand bunkers - CBM, Raynor, Langford/Moreau (Pete thought he was playing a Raynor, turns out it was LM)


Internal Green Muffins - Maxwell




Bracket bunkering (usually 2+ on either side) of FW landing zone for RTJ, but to lesser degrees, Wilson and then his protege's like Joe Lee


In just the Chicago school:


Double Dogleg either U or Z shaped for Larry Packard



Clamshell bunkers for Robert Bruce Harris


David Gill had a thing for running two parallel holes in the same direction (most would go back and forth)  He also broke big bunkers into several small ones to allow circulation between them (on BAM courses, mostly)

Jim Spear - Tees, landing zones and greens on high points, leaving bad shots in blind valleys.

I'm sure there are more, probably out in the Midwest where a lot of gca's were trying to build BAM's on low budgets.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Dan_Callahan

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2020, 11:26:15 AM »
Many of Jim Engh's courses I've played had very similar and distinct bunker designs. Don't know if that's true of all his courses, but it certainly stood out to me.


I feel like Mike Strantz loved to include a sort of boomerang hole, where the fairway loops around some sort of extreme hazard or obstruction.

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2020, 01:02:48 PM »
Many of Jim Engh's courses I've played had very similar and distinct bunker designs. Don't know if that's true of all his courses, but it certainly stood out to me.


I feel like Mike Strantz loved to include a sort of boomerang hole, where the fairway loops around some sort of extreme hazard or obstruction.


Engh also made at least one green with a steep falloff.
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

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JohnVDB

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2020, 01:06:00 PM »
RTJ runway tees.


Dye last 3 holes - risk reward par 5, all or nothing par 3 and hard par 4 with water usually on the left.

Mark Pritchett

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2020, 01:31:58 PM »
Split fairways- Lester George

Dan_Callahan

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2020, 04:27:20 PM »
Can't leave out Rees Jones and all the damn artificial mounds.

mike_malone

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2020, 04:42:59 PM »
Flynn does angled bunkers at the green.
AKA Mayday

Cal Seifert

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2020, 06:25:02 AM »
Donald Ross diagonal cross fairway bunkers and the ‘chocolate drop’ mounding.

Tim Martin

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Re: Peculiarities that have become trademarks of courses and designers
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2020, 07:02:50 AM »
Donald Ross diagonal cross fairway bunkers and the ‘chocolate drop’ mounding.


Cal-Emmet also liked to use the “chocolate mounds” in addition to “top shot” bunkers.

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