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Thomas Dai

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Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« on: August 27, 2019, 07:51:08 AM »
For my own interest and amusement I have for a while been sourcing old b&w photos of Augusta National GC (and other aspects of golf generally) and colouring them.

With colour added the views seem to come to life a bit more and some additional features also appear.
The difference to what we see on TV etc these days is pretty startling in numerous respects not just the architecture, maintenance etc.

Here they are in no particular order and without narrative. An archive of coloured photo echo's from the past?

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jeffwarne

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2019, 08:18:03 AM »
These pictures eveoke memories of Palmetto in the winter in a non overseed year, or pre irrigation 1970's.


That horriffic picture of 8 in 1956? is still mind blowing-amazed that could actually happen.


Also amazing how subtle those massive elevation changes on 1 and 9 look in those photos.


Incredible how good 11 looked with the stream wrapping around the side rather than the dammed up pond that's there now, and 12 aand 13 tee llok so nice, compact and connected in the background.
I'm sure spring floods were a part of the reason all that was formalized later


12 green actually appears to have undulation
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MCirba

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2019, 11:00:06 AM »
Wow.  Nice job, Thomas.
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Craig Disher

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2019, 11:56:04 AM »
Wonderful, thanks Thomas.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2019, 12:25:07 PM by Craig Disher »

Kalen Braley

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2019, 11:58:34 AM »
Was this the original 8 green?



Kalen Braley

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2019, 12:01:51 PM »
P.S. Thomas, not trying to thread jack with this.

Just figured this would be a good place to post this for those who haven't seen it...

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,61416.0.html

Jeff Schley

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2019, 12:10:27 PM »
Was this the original 8 green?



I was just going to ask which green that was, but couldn't figure out the copy/paste.  Looks like a mini GATE at NB with a swail in the middle, albeit much smaller.
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Evan Fleisher

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2019, 12:35:04 PM »
I love these (colorized) photos...so cool and ads a level of "depth" to the pictures not previously seen. Thanks for sharing!
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jeffwarne

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2019, 01:15:54 PM »
Was this the original 8 green?





No-that was a "Clifford Roberts" original
lasted one year and Jones(I think 1956?) put a sign up during the Masters to let everyone know it was to be redone immediately after The event


pretty sure the original was similar to what's there now, with another few year George Cobb iteration done in the late 70's or 80's that was also returned to what we see now (similar to original)
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Augusta National - old b&w photos - now coloured
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2019, 02:04:44 PM »
Here are a couple more. Good point about the other thread Kalen. Bit late now but the threads can at least be co-referenced/linked.
atb

Below - Early days - greens for holes currently numbered 7, 2, 18 and 9 visible


Below - Post WW2 - greens for holes currently numbered 1, 8, 9 and 18 visible.
Curious to see two greenside bunkers next the 8th green. I wonder how long they exisited?

Adam Clayman

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2019, 03:30:47 PM »
One can really get a sense of the original Tree Nursery. NOT.


Roberts 8th green wasn't altered until after his death. Byron Nelson was asked to re-create the MacKenzie original. He had Joe Finger do it. Baxter Spann recalls making the plasticine models as an intern for Finger Dye.
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BCrosby

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2019, 05:05:00 PM »
These are great.


In the blurry aerial of the 'Fruitlands Nursery' you can see the some of the hole corridors for the NLE Augusta CC Raynor course. George Bahto was trying to find more about it not long before his passing. I don't know how much success he had. The course was sold off sometime in the 1930s and redeveloped as upscale housing that is still there behind the Butler Cabin.   


Augusta CC's Ross course still exists - in part.


The picture of the 8th is from sometime in the 1960s, I would guess. MacK's original green and surrounds was largely restored in the mid-70s. Byron Nelson and others oversaw the restoration.


Bob 

Kalen Braley

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 05:11:27 PM »
Not trying to be overly critical, but what in the hell were they thinking on that old #8?  Looks like something you'd find on a putt-putt course.  Its only missing a windmill and moat...

Cliff Roberts must of been a proper tyrant to ram that thing thru the committee...

Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 08:09:11 PM »
This topic is great. I've enjoyed looking at the photos. Some I'd seen before, but not "colorized," and some are new to me.

In the blurry aerial of the 'Fruitlands Nursery' you can see the some of the hole corridors for the NLE Augusta CC Raynor course. George Bahto was trying to find more about it not long before his passing. I don't know how much success he had. The course was sold off sometime in the 1930s and redeveloped as upscale housing that is still there behind the Butler Cabin.   

I'm confused by this. The area behind Butler Cabin is the Par 3 course and such, no? Augusta CC is almost at the adjacent corner of the property, down beyond 12 green.

I don't know much about the Raynor Lake course there - was it where the Par 3 Course is now, or was it down closer to Augusta CC? Is it a different club entirely, or was it the same Augusta that neighbors ANGC by the 12th?

Not trying to be overly critical, but what in the hell were they thinking on that old #8?  Looks like something you'd find on a putt-putt course.  Its only missing a windmill and moat...Cliff Roberts must of been a proper tyrant to ram that thing thru the committee...

Seriously stupid looking green. How many years did it last? And where are all of the mounds?
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Gene Greco

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 08:28:01 PM »
Could have been Mr Roberts’ way of expressing holiday cheer on a grand scale?


  (Picture of a gingerbread man)
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jeffwarne

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2019, 10:21:29 PM »
Not trying to be overly critical, but what in the hell were they thinking on that old #8?  Looks like something you'd find on a putt-putt course.  Its only missing a windmill and moat...

Cliff Roberts must of been a proper tyrant to ram that thing thru the committee...


Committee of 1.
That awful green only lasted one year-Jones even insisted on a sign stating it was temporary.


They built an hourglassish shaped green with no mounds the next year which remained until 1979 when the original(including the mounds) was restored
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Matthew Rose

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2019, 10:46:33 PM »
Really love all those bunker shapes and the natural creek edges.

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Tom Bacsanyi

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2019, 11:14:40 PM »
I'm obsessed with original Augusta.  Why was it so minimally bunkered vs. Mackenzie's other designs?  Was it Jones' influence?
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2019, 11:41:39 PM »
Here's the history of the changes to the 8th, taken from this thread:  http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,51383.0.html



Hole 8 - Yellow Jasmine - Par 5






1934 - 500 yards - The hole played 60 feet uphill to a punchbowl style green (similar to the 17th at Muirfield) that MacKenzie his with 9 to 12 foot high hillocks.  At its narrowest point, the green was only 20 feet wide, with a 45-degree turn to the left.


1957 - 520 yards - Supposedly Roberts loved the green at the 8th (nicknamed Jane Russell due to the mounds), but deemed it appropriate to knock down the hillocks for better spectator viewing.  The resulting figure-eight platform green had a vertical drop on all sides.  Bob Jones got angry at Roberts, telling him he was wrecking the course.  For the 1957 Masters, a sign near the green explained that the change was only temporary.


1958 - 530 yards - Cobb was called in after the '57 tournament to rebuild the green and recover the shape created by Mackenzie.  The result was a green flatter and wider than the original.  In place of the legendary mounds, Cobb built two ordinary bunkers because of Roberts' insistence on keeping clear sight lines for the patrons.  Cobb also filled in the old fairway cross bunker and created a new one farther out and to the right.


1980 - 530 yards - After Roberts died in 1977, the club asked Cobb to restore the green again.  When Cobb indicated he could not recall the original shape or contours, Byron Nelson stepped in with Joseph Finger to undertake the job.  He reestablished the punch-bowl green from memory and a few old photos, and even hand-raked the final contours.


2011 - 570 yards - Fazio rebuilt the green once again in 1997, creating a new back-right shelf for a Sunday pin 111 feet from the front and 18 from the right collar.  In 2001, he moved the tee back 20 yards and 10 yards to the right.  The fairway bunker was moved farther down the fairway, doubled in size and deepened, requiring a drive of 315 yards to clear.

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Thomas Dai

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2019, 01:39:37 PM »
Here is a further old b&w photo now coloured photo of the 8th green.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2019, 01:42:45 PM »
And two further ones of the 12th
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Augusta National - old photos now coloured
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2019, 07:40:25 PM »
I think architects could include that pic of the 8th green in any presentation where we are trying to instruct why it is not wise to "save money" by not hiring a good gca. :o
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