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Peter Flory

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #75 on: June 18, 2019, 12:35:04 AM »
I think that the problem with Azinger and Strange as announcers are that they are gritty/ tough/ hyper competitive guys.  There is a sort of tension when they are talking.  It's like they are constantly telling us what it takes to win a major instead of just celebrating the great play that is happening.   

Announcers in general don't bother me, but I wouldn't say that those two are pleasant to listen to.  I would put Greg Norman in the same category as them. 

I've actually come to enjoy Nick Faldo's laid back approach. 

RJ_Daley

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2019, 12:35:40 AM »
Ted Sturges pretty much ticked all the boxes on the annual review, as far as I am concerned.

I do find it entertaining that these threads at the end of majors telecasts are always predictable with so many comments and criticisms of the broadcast on-air personalities.  Let's face it... Doc Mike Emerich just finished doing "the cup" season and probably is recovering in a Trapist Monestary.  So, you're going to get the lead football-basketball announcer of whatever network the major is on, with whoever isn't going to make a run on the Champion's Tour.

Maybe they can rig the microphones to not pick up the morons shouting on every shot, yet hear the caddies/players as Mike Y says.  All in all, good toon-a-mint this time.  ;D 8)
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Mike Sweeney

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #77 on: June 18, 2019, 04:53:30 AM »
Golf just need more action to keep the fan interest and IMHO microphones on caddies and players would be a game changer....


Year 1 would be great, and then in Year 2 we would get:


Brooks Koepka to Caddie: "Give me my TaylorMade XYX to cut that ProV into the corner of the 4th green built by TifEagle."


Caddie to Brooks: Are you sure? Maybe we should have some Gatorade with Electrolytes first so we can concentrate!!

Money kills all the fun...
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Bernie Bell

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #78 on: June 18, 2019, 06:55:03 AM »
With Buck/Azinger on the TV, I don’t need the sound.  With Maureen Madill on the radio, I don’t need the video. 

Mike_Young

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #79 on: June 18, 2019, 07:17:20 AM »
Golf just need more action to keep the fan interest and IMHO microphones on caddies and players would be a game changer....


Year 1 would be great, and then in Year 2 we would get:


Brooks Koepka to Caddie: "Give me my TaylorMade XYX to cut that ProV into the corner of the 4th green built by TifEagle."


Caddie to Brooks: Are you sure? Maybe we should have some Gatorade with Electrolytes first so we can concentrate!!

Money kills all the fun...
It is all abput the money.  that's why they never take their hats off anymore.... ;D ;D
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #80 on: June 18, 2019, 08:51:50 AM »
Remember Doaky McDoakface? The inspiration for that name is paying off.


https://nypost.com/2019/06/18/boaty-mcboatface-makes-major-climate-change-discovery/

David Federman

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #81 on: June 18, 2019, 08:58:59 AM »
Neither Azinger nor Strange evidently does any homework ala Johnny Miller re: pin positions, green slope, issues with particular areas around the greens, etc.   Other than saying "awesome" countless times during the broadcast, Azinger gives zero insight into the shot at hand. Strange is likewise worthless. With all their combined experience, how difficult would it be to talk about shot difficulty and execution in the heat of a US Open?  I would have enjoyed Peter Kostis' swing vision analysis as to why certain shots went wide right, for example, or at least some observation as to what was wrong with Justin Rose's swing or why Tiger was coming up short and right on many of his iron shots. What was Rory doing - was it bad strategy or execution or both? It would have been helpful to discuss the differences between putting on poa and other grasses and why it can be difficult to adjust to the differences.
I did think Brad Faxon and other on-course commentators provided some interesting comments, although it was sometimes difficult to know who was making the comments.

jeffwarne

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2019, 09:07:21 AM »
Golf just need more action to keep the fan interest and IMHO microphones on caddies and players would be a game changer....


Year 1 would be great, and then in Year 2 we would get:


Brooks Koepka to Caddie: "Give me my TaylorMade XYX to cut that ProV into the corner of the 4th green built by TifEagle."


Caddie to Brooks: Are you sure? Maybe we should have some Gatorade with Electrolytes first so we can concentrate!!

Money kills all the fun...


" yeah, we've got 374 to the hole and with the Bridgestone X it's 3 wood as the Callaway driver's too much...."


I really don't want to hear the conversation-in fact I wish it would go away and they would get on with it.
Pull carts would be refeshing :)
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2019, 09:19:18 AM »
Can you imagine the horror of a world with mandatory gas station attendants?

Mike Sweeney

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2019, 09:24:44 AM »
Can you imagine the horror of a world with mandatory gas station attendants?


Yes I can. It's called New Jersey  :) 8) :P  - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/nyregion/new-jersey-gas-pump.html
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2019, 09:41:36 AM »
With Buck/Azinger on the TV, I don’t need the sound.  With Maureen Madill on the radio, I don’t need the video.


M2 is a hidden gem.   ;D
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Jeff Schley

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2019, 10:32:14 AM »
1. They didn't have Gil Hanse on much at all and would have thought he could have contributed more than they allowed. 

2. I'm not an Azinger fan or Joe Buck fan, but remember the malaise days of Greg Norman at Chambers Bay???? Yeah improved from then, but still a ways to go as Azinger always seems to try with the one liner that falls short.
3. Loved the course and camera work overall, although I would have almost every shot with the short tracer if possible, following the ball in the air is worthless.  Where it lands yes, but not in the air.  Love the distance information and shot tracer, as well as where each ball they hit on the hole in previous rounds with results was nice.
Overall I enjoyed watching the final round as it did have drama and I though Koepka was going to win after his front 9, so kudos to Woodland.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2019, 11:04:46 AM »
I'm confused.

I thought Azinger worked for NBC now, or was he still under contract to do the US Open with Fox this year?

I may be in the minority, but I think Paul does a decent job, certainly a helluva lot better than "I shot a 63 at Oakmont" Johnny. Reality is none of the US based anchors are top notch, I wish they would just save some money and pipe in the UK audio feed.  I also like Faldo, he's low key and often has humorous insights without the flowery shit that comes out of Nantz cake hole...

Buck thou....he must go...he can't even do his bread and butter right, (baseball), much less golf.
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Tim Martin

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2019, 11:46:40 AM »
Strange always looks like he needs a bowl of soup and a nap.

Buck Wolter

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #89 on: June 18, 2019, 03:42:51 PM »

With Buck/Azinger on the TV, I don’t need the sound.  With Maureen Madill on the radio, I don’t need the video.


M2 is a hidden gem.   ;D
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Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #90 on: June 18, 2019, 11:44:17 PM »
certainly a helluva lot better than "I shot a 63 at Oakmont" Johnny.
Oy. I think Johnny talked about his 63 - and brought it up himself even less - far, far less than people seem to think. Johnny was good, IMO.
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Ken Moum

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #91 on: June 19, 2019, 02:32:10 AM »
certainly a helluva lot better than "I shot a 63 at Oakmont" Johnny.
Oy. I think Johnny talked about his 63 - and brought it up himself even less - far, far less than people seem to think. Johnny was good, IMO.


I agree. In fact, all the bitching about it got me to pay attention and he virtually never brought it up himself.


Several years ago I sat across a table from him at a VERY informal lunch. It was interesting.


He had the kind of confidence about his career that I'd expect from someone who knew that when he was on, he could hang with anyone.


He also had no trouble talking about his failings at golf...in particular his horrible putting.


The thing that surprised me most is how big he is.
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Rob Marshall

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2019, 08:36:33 AM »
certainly a helluva lot better than "I shot a 63 at Oakmont" Johnny.
Oy. I think Johnny talked about his 63 - and brought it up himself even less - far, far less than people seem to think. Johnny was good, IMO.


I agree. In fact, all the bitching about it got me to pay attention and he virtually never brought it up himself.


Several years ago I sat across a table from him at a VERY informal lunch. It was interesting.


He had the kind of confidence about his career that I'd expect from someone who knew that when he was on, he could hang with anyone.


He also had no trouble talking about his failings at golf...in particular his horrible putting.


The thing that surprised me most is how big he is.


He gave himself credit for inventing every style of putting.
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Jeff Evagues

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #93 on: June 19, 2019, 08:42:59 AM »
I was a walking scorer at Oakmont in 1994 and had Johnny Miller the first day. I thought he was one of the nicest people you could ever meet.
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MCirba

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2019, 02:23:34 AM »
Can we bring back Chris Schenkel, Jim McKay, and Byron Nelson?

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Matthew Rose

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2019, 02:31:05 PM »
Buck's issue is that he doesn't seem to know golf.

Azinger and Strange speak in cliches and platitudes and it just becomes irritating and grating after so long.... and neither one resembles anything I'd consider eloquent, either.
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Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2019, 03:23:01 PM »
I don’t think Buck is anywhere near as bad as most seem to here. Really thought I’d like Azinger but he adds nothing to the conversation. He’s still trying to be buddies with everyone? Strange, ambivalent. Faxon did well.
Erik J. Barzeski @iacas
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V_Halyard

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2019, 03:33:49 PM »
Can we bring back Chris Schenkel, Jim McKay, and Byron Nelson?
Sure... I'll bring popcorn to the seance. Stop and grab a Ouija board... ;)

I enjoyed the Fox Combo during the US Women's Open of Shane Bacon, Faxon and Julie Inkster.
They seemed to find an enjoyable PGA /Player Resume/Announcer balance. All enjoyable, credible and knowledgable regarding the impact of architecture on play. Their flow was crisp but breezy and Bacon knows when to be funny vs. golfy.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #98 on: June 21, 2019, 06:40:06 PM »
Reminds me how good Judy Rankin was. That would be a terrific line up - Rankin, Dottie Pepper and Julie Inkster.
But like Mike I remember the old timers too --I thought Dave Marr was the best.


Kalen Braley

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Re: Now, Who, if Anyone, is to Blame?
« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2019, 06:58:26 PM »
Give me the BBC feed any day and twice on Sundays....


But if stuck with an American crew, CBS is the best, even if Nance thinks i'm his friend....

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