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Tom_Doak

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Mission Statement
« on: March 15, 2019, 01:18:45 PM »
I often recommend to clubs that have asked us to consult, that they first prepare a Mission Statement for us, rather than having us impose one upon them.


The best one I've ever seen came to me in a recent RFP.  Here it is:


"The Club's character is determined by its location and traditions.  It is a two-ball Club, with the membership preferring easy access, fast play and hard greens.  Match play is more common than medal golf.  There are no tee times, dogs are welcome and [REDACTED] determines the rhythm of the day.  The Membership defend the Club's ethos staunchly and there is little impetus for change."


Care to guess who has their priorities in such order?




Note:  I redacted two words so it didn't give away the club's identity directly.  I will come back later to give those away.
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Michael Wolf

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 01:33:56 PM »
Nine Bridges?
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 01:41:29 PM »
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 01:50:17 PM »
RWN.
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Mark Pearce

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 01:51:20 PM »
Sounds a lot like HCEG (and the redacted word could be lunch) but I can't for a moment imagine they're looking to appoint an architect.


Is this a US club?
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Mike Hendren

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2019, 02:00:11 PM »
The Alotian.
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MCirba

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 02:09:03 PM »
Quote from: Michael H on March 15, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
The Alotian.

"It rubs The Alotian on its skin or else it gets the hose again."*


*suggested Mission Statement

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John Kirk

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2019, 02:19:06 PM »
20 questions...
#1:  Is this club in the United States?
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 02:29:26 PM »
Quote from: MCirba on March 15, 2019, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: Michael H on March 15, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
The Alotian.

"It rubs The Alotian on its skin or else it gets the hose again."*


*suggested Mission Statement


 ;D ;D ;D
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2019, 02:31:16 PM »
Quote from: Mark Pearce on March 15, 2019, 01:51:20 PM
Sounds a lot like HCEG (and the redacted word could be lunch) but I can't for a moment imagine they're looking to appoint an architect.


Is this a US club?


There’s two redacted words, so it’s definitely ‘Sponge Pudding’.
 8)
F.
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The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

JT Taylor

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2019, 02:36:47 PM »
Quote from: Marty Bonnar on March 15, 2019, 02:29:26 PM
Quote from: MCirba on March 15, 2019, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: Michael H on March 15, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
The Alotian.

"It rubs The Alotian on its skin or else it gets the hose again."*





Early Candidate for OT Post of the Year.  Literally laughed out loud in my office when I read this.  I wonder if Jack Gordon (or is it Jame Gumb?) is a member of this mystery club?? (or given the fact that he was gunned down by Clarice Starling, was a member)..... ;D ;D ;D
*suggested Mission Statement


 ;D ;D ;D
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2019, 02:38:22 PM »
I'll go with question #2


"Is this club in the UK?"
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2019, 02:43:35 PM »
If guesses are welcome:
it's in GB&I
Ireland, specifically
It probably doesn't host many or any big/pro tournaments, but it isn't hyper private either
Obviously not a 'resort' course or a previously 'Americanized' one
But it's been 'worked on' before, ie by another architect, in the last 30 years or so
Not Royal County Down or Ballybunion or Portmarnock
Lahinch?

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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2019, 02:51:58 PM »
Quote from: Peter Pallotta on March 15, 2019, 02:43:35 PM
If guesses are welcome:
it's in GB&I
Ireland, specifically
It probably doesn't host many or any big/pro tournaments, but it isn't hyper private either
Obviously not a 'resort' course or a previously 'Americanized' one
But it's been 'worked on' before, ie by another architect, in the last 30 years or so
Not Royal County Down or Ballybunion or Portmarnock
Lahinch?


Definitely not in Ireland. Must be England, probably Brancaster or Swinley Forest.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2019, 02:57:45 PM »
'cause you're you and I'm me, I'll make another guess and say it's either Swinley Forest or Brancaster
 :)


(I read the RFP with the wrong accent. I have a cold)
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Adam Lawrence

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2019, 02:58:50 PM »
I've never encountered a strictly two ball only club outside of England and Scotland.


Rye?
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Tim Martin

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2019, 03:48:50 PM »
Quote from: Adam Lawrence on March 15, 2019, 02:58:50 PM
I've never encountered a strictly two ball only club outside of England and Scotland.


Rye?


Adam-I don’t know of any clubs that are “two ball only” in the U.S. I learned something from your post in that I wasn’t aware that said clubs were in England and Scotland but not Ireland.
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James Reader

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2019, 03:51:08 PM »
RWN? With “the tide” being the redacted words?
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John Kirk

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2019, 03:59:25 PM »
My first guess is Tara Iti


The primary owner is responsible for all major decisions, and is well respected for his vision of the game. 
« Last Edit: March 15, 2019, 04:03:13 PM by John Kirk »
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Mark_F

Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2019, 04:08:04 PM »
Surely it's Brancaster, with "the tide" being the redacted words.
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Scott Warren

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2019, 04:08:42 PM »
Quote from: Ally Mcintosh on March 15, 2019, 02:51:58 PM
Definitely not in Ireland. Must be England, probably Brancaster or Swinley Forest.


It would be particularly perverse for Swinley Forest to have defaced their 17th hole in-house at the same time they were preparing to engage an architect to help them not deface their golf course!


Mark Pearce & James Reader — those are two terrific guesses.
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2019, 04:35:12 PM »
Quote from: Scott Warren on March 15, 2019, 04:08:42 PM
Quote from: Ally Mcintosh on March 15, 2019, 02:51:58 PM
Definitely not in Ireland. Must be England, probably Brancaster or Swinley Forest.


It would be particularly perverse for Swinley Forest to have defaced their 17th hole in-house at the same time they were preparing to engage an architect to help them not deface their golf course!


Mark Pearce & James Reader — those are two terrific guesses.


I was going on the basis that they have now realised their mistake... that and the no tee-times.


But Brancaster has to be favourite and Mark must have it with “the tide”.


Could be Pulborough as a 3rd guess. Maybe Rye. Less likely RAF I would have thought.



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Michael Moore

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2019, 04:36:40 PM »
"There is a creeping tendency to use made up acronyms at SpaceX. Excessive use of made up acronyms is a significant impediment to communication and keeping communication good as we grow is incredibly important. Individually, a few acronyms here and there may not seem so bad, but if a thousand people are making these up, over time the result will be a huge glossary that we have to issue to new employees. No one can actually remember all these acronyms and people don't want to seem dumb in a meeting, so they just sit there in ignorance. This is particularly tough on new employees." - Elon Musk
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2019, 04:57:59 PM »
Royal West Norfolk would be my first choice/guess.
Hunstanton could be another. What about Rye?
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Greg Gilson

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Re: Mission Statement
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2019, 05:02:55 PM »
I am going for Rye. Only because Swinley not a predominantly 2 ball club. Not sure if Rye is dog-friendly though?
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