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Kyle Harris

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Florida Mystery Course
« on: November 14, 2018, 05:47:52 AM »
I listed this course in my Feature Interview under placed I'd like to see restored. It is still chugging along and you can see the vestiges. Routing is largely intact with three greens in different spots.


Don't look like this anymore, though! (Yet?)

Highland Park Golf Course by Lake Wales Public Library, on Flickr


Highland Park Association 11th Green by Lake Wales Public Library, on Flickr


Highland Park Golf Course Hole 10 by Lake Wales Public Library, on Flickr


Highland Park Golf Course 2nd Hole by Lake Wales Public Library, on Flickr


Highland Park Golf Course Hole 6 by Lake Wales Public Library, on Flickr


Highland Park Golf Course - 1937 by Lake Wales Public Library, on Flickr
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jeffwarne

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2018, 07:00:05 AM »
I see some Cleveland Heights in there(certainly the dogleg right over the water)?


Anyone who sees those pictures should NEVER advocate for greens stimping higher than what's required to play those cool looking greens.........


We've already ruined countless green designs with turf speed
and we're nearly there with fairways(imaginative chipping and pitching going away in favor of mandated putting/hybrids) at high end courses...
Proof that just because you can....doesn't mean you should
« Last Edit: November 14, 2018, 07:13:56 AM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Kyle Harris

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2018, 07:18:23 AM »
I see some Cleveland Heights in there(certainly the dogleg right over the water)?


Anyone who sees those pictures should NEVER advocate for greens stimping higher than what's required to play those cool looking greens.........


We've already ruined countless green designs with turf speed
and we're nearly there with fairways(imaginative chipping and pitching going away in favor of mandated putting/hybrids) at high end courses...
Proof that just because you can....doesn't mean you should


I wish I could find some photos of Cleveland Heights like this. These are all the same golf course. The water hole is largely there as-it-was, but in desperate need of a chainsaw. Perhaps Cory Lewis will post the photo of me teeing off from that tee last year.
http://kylewharris.com

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Derek_Duncan

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2018, 08:56:22 AM »
I know what it is. It has a terrible name, an amalgam of the names of the children of the family that owned it in the 1990's, I believe. Great sandy property with real topography.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2018, 08:59:33 AM »
I know what it is. It has a terrible name, an amalgam of the names of the children of the family that owned it in the 1990's, I believe. Great sandy property with real topography.


+1
I've played it but I had to use Google.
What great old pictures(which actually give away the current name)
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

SB

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2018, 09:04:07 AM »
That is one terrible website.  Considering how cool these pictures are, I would just show these with a phone number and it would be better than what is there now.   :P

Kyle Harris

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2018, 09:35:43 AM »
That is one terrible website.  Considering how cool these pictures are, I would just show these with a phone number and it would be better than what is there now.   :P


The place was purchased for pennies on the dollar by a well-to-do family whose interest is in preserving it for golf. Their intentions are pure and they are proud to have it.

They were a bit shocked I was a semi-annual visitor.
http://kylewharris.com

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Peter Pallotta

Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2018, 09:40:12 AM »
"Anyone who sees those pictures should NEVER advocate for greens stimping higher than what's required to play those cool looking greens..."

Jeff W - especially with the photos there as reference, I've never read it put better or more convincingly than you just did. Anyone who plays & loves golf can see it right away: any change to those greens is a change for the worse.

jeffwarne

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2018, 10:08:08 AM »
That is one terrible website.  Considering how cool these pictures are, I would just show these with a phone number and it would be better than what is there now.   :P


The place was purchased for pennies on the dollar by a well-to-do family whose interest is in preserving it for golf. Their intentions are pure and they are proud to have it.

They were a bit shocked I was a semi-annual visitor.


That is awesome news.
Any work done so far?
I've often wondered why multimillionaires don't do such a thing more often-I remember seeing the sales price.
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Kyle Harris

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2018, 11:55:52 AM »
That is one terrible website.  Considering how cool these pictures are, I would just show these with a phone number and it would be better than what is there now.   :P


The place was purchased for pennies on the dollar by a well-to-do family whose interest is in preserving it for golf. Their intentions are pure and they are proud to have it.

They were a bit shocked I was a semi-annual visitor.


That is awesome news.
Any work done so far?
I've often wondered why multimillionaires don't do such a thing more often-I remember seeing the sales price.


No work done nor to-be done. I may run these photos over to them.


But, there is a playing surface and new accessories. It remains fairly bare-boned. For $25 it is rather nice to go and reminisce and play the routing.
http://kylewharris.com

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Kyle Harris

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2018, 11:57:57 AM »
By the way, the architects are Stiles and Van Kleek.
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Cory Lewis

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2018, 02:02:09 PM »
I wish I could find some photos of Cleveland Heights like this. These are all the same golf course. The water hole is largely there as-it-was, but in desperate need of a chainsaw. Perhaps Cory Lewis will post the photo of me teeing off from that tee last year.
IMG_8561 by camel03, on Flickr


Highland Park Golf Course 2nd Hole by Lake Wales Public Library, on Flickr
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Mike Sweeney

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Re: Florida Mystery Course
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2018, 07:54:18 AM »
Thanks Cory and Kyle for posting that second hole picture. The awkwardness of the first two holes make more sense now.


I still say that Streamsong should purchase this course and re-package it as 6200 yard throwback off-site course for their players-guest. I remember that there are a bunch of complicated real estate structures in place from the legacy community, so probably not realistic, but...
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us."

Dr. Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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