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Joe Bausch

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Re: Halloween 2K18 Golf Mystery Course Revealed: Green Lakes State Park
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2018, 07:58:30 PM »
Good work by you, Ron.  I hope to see this course if I’m near the area.
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MCirba

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Re: Halloween 2K18 Golf Mystery Course Revealed: Green Lakes State Park
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2018, 10:40:28 AM »
Ron,


I didn't have the opportunity to play last summer as we were there camping with our kids and grandkids but when I was originally there in 1975 you could see across almost the whole property from the clubhouse and view a dozen or more holes.


This site www.historicaerials.com has some good older aerials that show the tree planting progression over time.   Hope that helps.
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Bill Shotzbarger

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Re: Halloween 2K18 Golf Mystery Course Revealed: Green Lakes State Park
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2018, 12:25:49 AM »
Ron, I played Green Lakes my first year I was a student at Syracuse.  (It may have been the same semester you hooked me up at Timber Banks.) 


The pictures do not do the elevation justice.  The clubhouse sits at the top of a big hill (drumlin?) in a big state park. 


Current 9/ old 18 is a great hole:









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The conditions were quite decent when I played because the property is good, and I don't think it gets enough play to tear it up.  Maybe in the summer if they have outings there.


I really liked Green Lakes but I definitely preferred Seven Oaks. And that's another classic RTJ Sr.—designed before the war but built after.  So add that to your lists too, guys!
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Philip Caccamise

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Re: Halloween 2K18 Golf Mystery Course Revealed: Green Lakes State Park
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2018, 06:50:30 PM »
Brad,

My photos aren't the greatest. We were Curtis Cup (Quaker Ridge) and US Open (Shinny) bound, and wanted to play along the way. Green Lakes had long been touted as a non-RTJ RTJ, and it didn't disappoint. Circumstances conspired against Senior, as the demands of a country and its course funders pushed him toward the diabolical courses for which he is known. Another one of his early municipal courses, Durand-Eastman Park, was butchered by a highway early on. It (1934) and Green Lakes (1935) are examples of what his work might have become. Another under-the-radar, NYS course by Senior is James Baird State Park in Poughkeepsie. I want to see Battle Island, in Oswego, as well.


http://www.roberttrentjonessociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RTJ_Course_List.pdf



It's been a long time, but I don't remember Battle Island as very good. Maybe it was the conditioning, but I didn't remember it as anything more than a muni on the level of Beaver Island.

Interesting topic to rank- NYS Park golf courses. Of the ones I've played:

1. Black (duh)
2. Red
3. Montauk Downs
4. Blue
5. Saratoga Spa
6. Green
7. Soaring Eagles
8. Yellow
9. Green Lakes
10. Rockland Lake
11. Sunken Meadows
12. Battle Island
13. Indian Hills* (played well before the state purchased it)
14. Beaver Island

I'm sure there's a few more I've played but they're so unmemorable they're not worth mentioning.

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