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David Davis

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First thought was Pebble Beach...


No need to comment. It was the words restore that triggered it.




2.  Apache Stronghold and Black Mesa are on tribal land.  You couldn't buy them if you wanted to.  You could possibly lease them and have the tribe as your partner.  God bless you if you want to try that.
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[/size]I agree that Southern Pines would be a sure win and perhaps even one where you could make a profit and get a lot of visitors. Though I'd personally like to see an attempt to build those casinos...[/color]
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Thomas Dai

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ANGC and return the course to how it was originally in terms of both layout and maintenance..... and then play a certain tournament over it with all participants required to play with equipment akin to that available when the course was opened.
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Ben Stephens

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Maybe we need a list of courses that there is a reasonable chance working alongside a developer.


Plus a business plan knowing how much GCA needs to crowdfund for a particular development to happen.


Then we as a group can vote on the preferred choice. Ran will choose the archie to work on the initial proposal etc.






 

Brian Finn

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There was a deal on the table in February for Southern Pines to be purchased (for $3.2MM) and renovated (estimated $2MM).  That deal fell through, but would give you some useful context.  Of course, there is ongoing maintenance cost to consider as well.
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BHoover

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Surely we can use Zac Blair’s grassroots funding efforts as an example of how to proceed.

Brad Payne

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Isle Dauphine Golf Club in Alabama would be interesting.  Believe it's 9 holes built on sand next to the ocean and could be the next Sweeten's Cove.  Was closed for a while and would need to be completely redone, but probably wouldn't cost much to buy.
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John Kavanaugh

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Surely we can use Zac Blair’s grassroots funding efforts as an example of how to proceed.


Our time and his may be better suited wishing him luck this week. Go Zac go!!!

Doug Hodgson

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Presumably Yale University would not sell their course but maybe they would accept the cash as a donation earmarked for its proper maintenance

PCCraig

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Perhaps the best use of member's money would be to all get together and join one particular club as non-resident members, then you could form a "society" at that club.

For example, you could join Northland CC for $1,500/year as a non resident. If 100 of us joined for the next three years that would go a long way toward funding the rest of their restoration.
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Peter Pallotta

Pat has the right idea, I think. How many of us, here on a website that values/promotes travelling to & playing & discussing the world's best golf courses, would want to be a member of and support and play much of our golf at one club/course? Especially since those most likely to want to be part of such a club are already members at other excellent clubs/courses -- many of which Tom D has already renovated...
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Thomas Dai

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When that wonderful Irish gem Mulranny got hit and damaged by a big storm a few years ago there was some discussion herein about supporting the club. Might have been one of the reasons Budaites headed that way on the way to Carne.
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George Pazin

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Sheep Ranch. The original.


Or nothing.
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Mike_Young

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Isle Dauphine Golf Club in Alabama would be interesting.  Believe it's 9 holes built on sand next to the ocean and could be the next Sweeten's Cove.  Was closed for a while and would need to be completely redone, but probably wouldn't cost much to buy.
I've done two plans on it over the last 10 years.  Hurricanes make it where not feasible.  But a nice spot...
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Tom_Doak

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Perhaps the best use of member's money would be to all get together and join one particular club as non-resident members, then you could form a "society" at that club.

For example, you could join Northland CC for $1,500/year as a non resident. If 100 of us joined for the next three years that would go a long way toward funding the rest of their restoration.


A fine idea. 


But it's going to be like GoFundMe around here if this comes to pass:  one heart-rending story of need after another.  At least this isn't about people's health . . .

Peter Pallotta

 :D  Ha ha!


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Garland Bayley

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Pacific Gales

A links near other website favorites.

Ben,

Did you see David I was trying crowd funding to get Pacific Gales off the ground before you started the thread?
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mike_malone

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Olde Masters in Newtown Square, PA.


This is a brilliant idea. I see a outstanding nine hole course rolling through that terrain and using the creek.
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John Kavanaugh

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My apologies as I had no idea that The Buck Club was holding a fundraiser:


https://www.thebuck.club/copy-of-about

Mike_Young

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Perhaps crowdfunding a lemonnade stand should be tried first... ;D
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Kalen Braley

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Buck Club seems like the GCA project to fund....

BHoover

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Buck Club seems like the GCA project to fund....
Why?

Criss Titschinger

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Isle Dauphine Golf Club in Alabama would be interesting.  Believe it's 9 holes built on sand next to the ocean and could be the next Sweeten's Cove.  Was closed for a while and would need to be completely redone, but probably wouldn't cost much to buy.
I've done two plans on it over the last 10 years.  Hurricanes make it where not feasible.  But a nice spot...


I played Isle Dauphine about 10 years ago before it first closed. While the scenery is hard to beat, it was in very rough shape. If you want sand greens, you got em here. Also, the middle of the course is pretty much a swamp, and the high number of mosquitoes I encountered confirmed that.


I went three years after Katrina, and you could still see the damage from that storm. Hurricanes would be a serious concern to do anything elaborate there. In fact, Gordon's going to make its presence felt as I type this.


I'd like to see it go down to 9 holes, and keep the ones by the ocean. The back 9 goes away from the ocean and gets pretty narrow in spots. Granted, there aren't a lot of places you can play multiple oceanside holes for about $35 bucks. But to be frank, you're not paying for grandiose architecture there.


Dauphin Island is pretty remote and difficult to get to. It's a solid 45 minute drive from Mobile, 35 minutes from the closest grocery store, and about an hour ferry ride from Fort Morgan on the Gulf Shores side. If you like a SUPER laid back place with not many restaurants or grocery stores, it's a great place. If you're looking for flashy entertainment options, you won't find them there.

Bill Seitz

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The answer is clearly Kankakee


Assuming you mean Kankakee Elks, why not throw in Spring Valley (Tigerman must be asleep or something).  Both L&M, both bunkerless (SV) or nearly so (KE).  I would call them surprisingly similar, but their similarities aren't really surprising.  Some TLC, a big influx of money, a superintendent who knows what he has and what to do with it (Like Craig Moore is doing for the L&M nine in Marquette, MI) and each could be something close to Lawsonia especially with a fair amount of tree removal.

Ben Stephens

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There was a deal on the table in February for Southern Pines to be purchased (for $3.2MM) and renovated (estimated $2MM).  That deal fell through, but would give you some useful context.  Of course, there is ongoing maintenance cost to consider as well.


Thats interesting - like Tom D says a developer could buy the property and GCA help to contribute to the renovations - it seems to have lots of potential as a top course. Plus being in Pinehurst is a plus to attract non GCA players to play it.


The Buck Club is another nice option.

Kalen Braley

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Buck Club seems like the GCA project to fund....
Why?


1)  The current organizer is a GCA member and seems to have a great vision and knows many members on this site already.
2)  The proposed architects already have a terrific show model as they turned a pedestrian 9 holer into a gem. I've been out to the proposed site for TBC and there is plenty of space to work with.
3)  Given its already occupied by a course, i'm guessing permitting will be far easier than starting from scratch, but just a guess.
4)  The location is good, relatively secluded, and only 45 minutes from a major International airport.
5)  Price should be relatively cheap as the current course is struggling to stay open.
6)  This site is mostly flat, will make for a good walking course
7) It has quite a few older mature trees, which I think work well in adding interest and a large creek/small river that flows thru the property.

P.S.  As far as off site attractions it has world class skiing less than 1 hour away in Park City. And if you're into top notch off roading, mountain biking, canyoneering, I'm not aware of anywhere better than Moab at 4 hours away.
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