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Sam Kestin

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2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« on: January 31, 2018, 03:04:55 PM »
Was just thinking about when this year's Lido contest was going to come out--I know that last year's was rolled out in January and I was curious if anyone knew when we could expect this year's competition to open up?


Another question--I'm considering putting in an entry for the first time but continue to run head-first into the dilemma that has kept me from bothering to enter any of the previous contests...which is that I am an utterly horrendous artist. I look at the entries from last year and am blown away by the quality of the sketching and the immaculate presentations that those who were competitive to win the prize were able to put together. A number of my elementary and high school teachers could vouch for the absolutely remote possibility that, irrespective of whatever design idea I might cook up, I could present it in any way that could be competitive with any of those high-placing entries I saw from last year.


Does anyone have any suggestions for how a totally incompetent artist could try to hang among this tough crowd?

Tom Allen

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2018, 04:22:30 PM »
I believe that many entrants (including some finalists, if not the winner) used a software program to render the image of the hole.  That would eliminate any need to draw anything.  :)

Tom Allen

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2018, 04:24:58 PM »
The article re the 2017 winner references 'a video golf game's course design software."  Sorry, but I don't know which one game it was.  Maybe someone else can help with that.

Cal Seifert

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2018, 05:41:07 PM »
The article re the 2017 winner references 'a video golf game's course design software."  Sorry, but I don't know which one game it was.  Maybe someone else can help with that.


The game was probably 'The Golf Club'.  It has a quite advanced course editor feature.

Matthew Rose

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2018, 06:54:41 PM »
The Golf Digest contest was done using Perfect Parallel's Course Forge software, but I don't know if that's the same contest. I've got about 15 courses completed for it, real and fictional.

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Matthew Mollica

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"The truth about golf courses has a slightly different expression for every golfer. Which of them, one might ask, is without the most definitive convictions concerning the merits or deficiencies of the links he plays over? Freedom of criticism is one of the last privileges he is likely to forgo."

Sam Kestin

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 01:08:28 PM »
Hand-drawn entries required...tragic.


Is it cheating if I do it on a computer and then try to trace it?


This trick worked in elementary school when I had to do art projects...

Jonathan Webb

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2018, 09:06:19 AM »
Any idea when results will be announced?

Neil White

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2018, 01:47:26 PM »
I think the winner was to have been informed no later than the 30th April - so unless they are over-running if you haven't heard anything then you haven't won I guess....

Tom_Doak

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 02:58:29 PM »
By chance, I heard from the winner yesterday - unless he was lying, which would be really odd.  He doesn't participate here, under his own name, anyway.

Conor Rankin

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition?
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2018, 04:31:53 AM »
I see a run down through the top submissions has been made available by golf digest and a more detailed account of the winners. Lots of interesting ideas put forward and the artwork is impressive as well


https://www.golfdigest.com/gallery/the-2018-lido-competition-countdown


https://www.golfdigest.com/story/veteran-lido-competition-entrant-shows-his-alister-mackenzie-acumen-with-winning-2018-design

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: 2018 Lido Prize Competition? New
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2018, 03:13:58 PM »
Fun sketches and nice ideas.
I find it awkward to draw or judge holes outside the context of a routing, property geometry, vegetation and terrain.
But what I find more awkward are some of the critiques and the "guidelines" by which the holes were judged:
"stuck with this blind shot... no idea where the hazards are" - i disagree - if it is blind play more conservatively - this makes this hole more interesting
"I don't care for a boomerang green with knob on the inside corner. The amount of slope you'd have to build ... would be severe" - unless the intent is to have the knob be a hazard
"no one would try to hit it there" - someone will always try to hit to a tiny target if there is a benefit
"half of the green falls away... that's pretty severe" - a hole can be hard and still be great
"eliminate ... on the basis of one silly bunker" - it's an art form also - whimsy is a positive
"slope of the green slides from front to back and there's a 5 foot mound kicking shots" - that's what makes the green interesting
"the bunker short right is meaningless" - I bet the critic would find that bunker 30-50% of the time
etc...


p.s.
Most of the tees could be improved

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