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Tommy Williamsen

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Jason, what were you thinking?
« on: August 12, 2017, 09:48:49 PM »
I realize this is OT but good grief. Talk about sabotaging yourself.
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Rob Marshall

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 09:58:58 PM »
What was his caddie thinking? Almost looked like it was intentional. Pitch it out and the worse you make is 5.

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Peter Pallotta

Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 10:06:09 PM »
Like someone once said about heavyweight boxing champs and why so many of them have had such sad endings: The same thing that got them to step into the ring in the first place is what keeps them stepping into the ring one too many times, and long after they should've retired.
I'm sure that, at the moment he took his stance, JD was absolutely convinced that 2+2 = 5.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 10:08:16 PM by Peter Pallotta »

Garland Bayley

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 10:08:53 PM »
What was his caddie thinking? Almost looked like it was intentional. Pitch it out and the worse you make is 5.

Well, I saw David Toms pitch it out and make 8, and still win a while ago. ;)
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 10:20:06 PM »
At his level there is first and everyone else. Good for him going for the win. The most important question...Were you entertained?


Tommy, where would your chosen profession be if everyone played it safe and never took risks? Or if those who did and failed weren't punished? Hopefully Jason went home and looked at his family in the same light as when they rush the 18th after a victory. You can't buy a good wake up call.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2017, 05:56:38 AM »
In some other sports similar scenarios are known as "brain fade".
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Scott Warren

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2017, 06:00:54 AM »
Now watch him go down tomorrow with some imagined injury that excuses him skipping the Playoffs and ditching the Aussie summer of golf for another year.

Wade Whitehead

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2017, 06:40:33 AM »
Perhaps taking 5:40 to complete a round takes its toll.

WW

Tim Martin

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 07:07:17 AM »
I read where Day has thirteen people on his "team" that he feels are necessary for him to have the best chance to win. ::)  Go to your room Jason!

jeffwarne

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 09:25:16 AM »
Perhaps taking 5:40 to complete a round takes its toll.

WW


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Mike Schott

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 09:41:11 AM »
Brain fade or overconfidence? These guys are so good they think they can do anything. Phil is often guilty of this and of course Van de Velde.

Peter Pallotta

Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 10:49:27 AM »
I read where Day has thirteen people on his "team" that he feels are necessary for him to have the best chance to win. ::)  Go to your room Jason!
Compare this to the old school. Nicklaus had a 'team' of 1 - Jack Grout, who he'd go see before the start of the season. And the likes of Hogan and Nelson and Snead and Trevino, who didn't even have that. Think of the message that young JD is sending himself. He can claim that he's giving himself the best chance to win -- but what he's actually expressing and confirming is the deep-seated belief that he *needs* 13 other people in order to play this game, ie that his mental and physical and emotional life is so fragile that he can't compete without all that help.
I've never done anything as well as JD plays golf, but to me that seems like a terrible message to send yourself -- especially with golf at the highest level, where 90% of it is mental. My unsolicited advice: before next year's Masters, JD should jettison his team and his contemporaries on tour and instead go on a drunken weekend gabfest with Fuzzy Zoeller, Hal Sutton and Lanny Wadkins.

« Last Edit: August 13, 2017, 11:01:27 AM by Peter Pallotta »

Matt MacIver

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2017, 11:18:57 AM »
If you were going to try a hero shot wasn't the window to the left for a low or high slice better?  At least you'd be out of the trees, maybe hit a chalet and get a drop, etc?  To each his own I guess.

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2017, 02:22:03 PM »


Brain fade or overconfidence? These guys are so good they think they can do anything. Phil is often guilty of this and of course Van de Velde.
Van de Welde was only guilty of having an extremely poor carom of the grandstand, well over the water.


In comparison Jason was probably twice as good as Kevin Na a few years ago.  I am happy to see these poor decisions made in golf, where there are minimal consequences, and that nobody was hurt.


As far as 5:40 rounds, chalk that up to the decision to play in groups of three, and having pa 3s that take 13-15 minutes to play with 10 minute spacings. Happy to see they are paired today.

« Last Edit: August 13, 2017, 02:27:29 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Tim Martin

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 03:21:28 PM »

As far as 5:40 rounds, chalk that up to the decision to play in groups of three, and having pa 3s that take 13-15 minutes to play with 10 minute spacings. Happy to see they are paired today.


Pete-I think that nails it along with the extremely difficult greens.

Cliff Hamm

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2017, 06:53:39 PM »
Perhaps given Jason's background he requires more support than most...

Eric LeFante

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2017, 09:57:04 PM »
Like someone once said about heavyweight boxing champs and why so many of them have had such sad endings: The same thing that got them to step into the ring in the first place is what keeps them stepping into the ring one too many times, and long after they should've retired.
I'm sure that, at the moment he took his stance, JD was absolutely convinced that 2+2 = 5.


Great point.


After the round, Day didn't think it was a bad decision and he said he was convinced he could have pulled that shot off.




Garland Bayley

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2017, 11:12:22 PM »
Like someone once said about heavyweight boxing champs and why so many of them have had such sad endings: The same thing that got them to step into the ring in the first place is what keeps them stepping into the ring one too many times, and long after they should've retired.
I'm sure that, at the moment he took his stance, JD was absolutely convinced that 2+2 = 5.


Great point.


After the round, Day didn't think it was a bad decision and he said he was convinced he could have pulled that shot off.

In that case he uses net poles at the range to practice that shot. What does he care how many shafts he breaks? They're free to him!  ::)

Probably goes to TopGolf for the instant feedback. Do they have sensors in the net poles at TopGolf? Can they score him on shaft impact too?  ::)
« Last Edit: August 13, 2017, 11:13:57 PM by Garland Bayley »
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Scott Warren

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2017, 03:14:06 PM »
To be fair to Jason, that "13 people" article listed his caddie, wife, doctor, physio, trainer, agent, lawyer, accountant... it was a fairly concocted attempt at "check out Jason's entourage".


As for being convicted he can successfully pull off that shot... there's a great special for Golf Channel if ever I saw one -- J Day back in that exact spot with a bucket of balls, trying to prove that wasn't the dumbest play seen in a major this century.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 01:11:52 PM »
Why all the hate for a man providing jobs to so many people??


I'm guessing Jack had a lawyer, accountant, etc that he used part time as well...

Jason Topp

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 02:08:42 PM »
I saw this and wondered how I screwed up.  I get it now!

George Pazin

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2017, 12:16:50 PM »
I think his thinking was rather simple: if I bogey or double this, I'm pretty much out of it anyway, so I might as well go for it. I have little to lose, much to gain, even if the odds are rather slim.


Looking at the final score, I find it hard to criticise him. If he just bogeys, hardly a given, he has to shoot 66 on Sunday to be in the playoff, and that's even having the benefit of hindsight.
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Jason, what were you thinking?
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2017, 05:25:41 PM »
So I got back to the Buda HQ in the early hours a nd the night at c human asked if I'd seen it?


I replied in the affirmative and he added


"Day's problem was his head fell off!"
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