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Dean Stokes

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New Tour Schedule?
« on: August 08, 2017, 11:16:03 PM »
Head of the PGA of America says Bethpage will be in better condition late May than in Augusta.



Sounds strange to me given my experience on Long Island but what do the experts here say?
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JESII

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 07:32:57 AM »
I'm not one of the experts you seek, and hopefully they will chime in...but have you played golf in May recently?


This corridor from Philly to NYC is absolutely perfect...

Tim Martin

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 08:08:47 AM »
I'm not one of the experts you seek, and hopefully they will chime in...but have you played golf in May recently?


This corridor from Philly to NYC is absolutely perfect...


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BCrosby

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 08:31:54 AM »
A good move. I'm having trouble seeing much of a downside.   


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Brad Tufts

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2017, 10:05:51 AM »
I mean even the Boston area is pretty damn good condition-wise in mid to late May.


Many clubs aerate the first or second week of May, but if held off a bit, would be in great shape.


Rain might be an issue, but T-storms are an issue everywhere in August too.


I would guess the few places that might be affected by "too early" would still be able to get it done if need be...Hazeltine, Whistling Straits, etc.  And we are only getting warmer as a country...
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Tom_Doak

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2017, 01:29:16 PM »
As someone mentioned on another thread, the only issue would be if there was a big winterkill year, the host course would have zero growing season to try and repair the turf.  (Think of what happened in Toronto 2-3 years back:  the same can happen in Philly.)  Of course, in a really bad year, it wouldn't be very good by August, either, but at least they could try.

Kalen Braley

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2017, 01:41:32 PM »
I think the experiment will be just fine until that big winter kill year and they're playing on splotchy greens and fairways...for a major nonetheless.


Then the horror will set in!  :)






Wayne_Kozun

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2017, 04:13:29 PM »
As someone mentioned on another thread, the only issue would be if there was a big winterkill year, the host course would have zero growing season to try and repair the turf.  (Think of what happened in Toronto 2-3 years back:  the same can happen in Philly.)  Of course, in a really bad year, it wouldn't be very good by August, either, but at least they could try.
This happened to my club in Toronto and several others, including Hamilton and St. George's. If I recall this is caused by ice on the greens for over 30 days that asphyxiated the poa on the greens. I do believe this can be mitigated by removing the ice from the greens which would likely happen as you would have the resources if you were a couple months away from hosting the PGA Championship.

Peter Pallotta

Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2017, 04:51:39 PM »
It's all perspective, it seems to me. From my perspective, you can't have *bad* weather for an outdoor game like golf -- you just have the weather. Why shouldn't what we love about the Open - ie the variability of the conditions, year to year, day to day, sometimes hour to hour - apply equally to the PGA Championship? Yes - it might be 80 and sunny or it might 48 and rainy. Great! Or at least it would be great if not for our built-in bias against the 4th/least major and our snobbishness (that's what it is) in assuming the worst about the PGA leadership. I remember that Jack's Memorial Tournament - played in a "perfect" slot 2 weeks before the US Open - seemed for years to be plagued by bad weather/delays because of typical summer storms -- but everyone dealt with it just fine, mostly because Jack is Jack. How about we give Pete Bevacqua and the PGA Championship just a little of the same respect? We might find that, a few years on, this now-first major will have developed the unique personality and character folks have long complained it doesn't have. And, (spoken as a life-long northeasterner) isn't it about time we stop being so precious about the New York-NJ etc courses and genuinely embrace and promote the dozens of gems that would be perfect major venues in other parts of the country?
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Jeff Evagues

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Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2017, 04:54:57 PM »
It's all perspective, it seems to me. From my perspective, you can't have *bad* weather for an outdoor game like golf -- you just have the weather. Why shouldn't what we love about the Open - ie the variability of the conditions, year to year, day to day, sometimes hour to hour - apply equally to the PGA Championship? Yes - it might be 80 and sunny or it might 48 and rainy. Great! Or at least it would be great if not for our built-in bias against the 4th/least major and our snobbishness (that's what it is) in assuming the worst about the PGA leadership. I remember that Jack's Memorial Tournament - played in a "perfect" slot 2 weeks before the US Open - seemed for years to be plagued by bad weather/delays because of typical summer storms -- but everyone dealt with it just fine, mostly because Jack is Jack. How about we give Pete Bevacqua and the PGA Championship just a little of the same respect? We might find that, a few years on, this now-first major will have developed the unique personality and character folks have long complained it doesn't have. And, (spoken as a life-long northeasterner) isn't it about time we stop being so precious about the New York-NJ etc courses and genuinely embrace and promote the dozens of gems that would be perfect major venues in other parts of the country?
Actually, it would be the second major after the Augusta spring invitational.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: New Tour Schedule?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2017, 05:01:23 PM »
Oh, yeah - the second major. But besides that...


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