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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2017, 11:38:15 PM »

Buck has smartly posted the maps for both courses in Reply 69, this page.
Also, I have added a scorecard for the HankiWolter ns course in the first entry, at the bottom
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THE CRADDOCK COURSE

 1      2     3     4      5      6     7      8    9   OUT     10    11    12    13   14   15   16   17   18      IN    TOT
 5      4     4     3      5      4     3      4    4       36       3     4      3      5     5     4      4     4     4        36      72
490 355 475 125 520 405 260 445 425   3500  205 445 190 550 570 315 410 490 360 3535 7035
455 345 425 120 470 380 225 420 350   3190  160 385 155 520 530 290 365 420 325 3150 6340
425 330 390 110 410 325 200 350 305   2845  120 320 135 475 445 275 290 365 290 2715 5560
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2017, 11:38:32 PM »

HOLE #1  CRADDOCK   Par 5 (555) 490  455  425. The (555) is a new pink tee very near the practice putting green.
Heads W. Shared fairway (Hankins 18), diagonal crossing. Stand alone green.

Tee elevated above fairway, after tee shot gently sloping uphill to small green, which is located above the right side/end of darker green.



bunkers are definitely in front of the green, causing depth perception problems


I didn't think that balls to the left of the green will feed down. This shot from right front
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 09:01:11 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2017, 11:38:54 PM »
HOLE # 2 CRADDOCK    Par 4   355  345  330
Plays to the NW. Fairway shared w/ Hankins 17. Green shared w/Hankins 16


Tee shot gently uphill, should be aimed at the fairway bunker as the green is oriented to receive shots from the right side


Off kilter photo shows the wedge approach



View of the green from the rear. C-2 approaches from the left  H -16 approaches from the right.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 12:02:27 AM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2017, 11:39:07 PM »

HOLE # 3 CRADDOCK  Par 4  475  425  390
Plays to the SE. Fairway shared with Hankins 16. Stand alone green


Downhill tee shot with fairway falling to the left. Slight dogleg, green shows to the left side of photo.


Mid-iron approach open to ground play, slope to left. Photo taken somewhere near left edge fairway bunker.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 12:09:50 AM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2017, 11:39:19 PM »
HOLE # 4   CRADDOCK     Par 3   125  120  110
Plays WNW. Stand alone hole.


Blind and short. Flagstick at right edge of big tree. Strongly suggest you scout out hole location while playing #3.


Green shown from short right. Biggest tree was prominent in prior photo.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 12:17:00 AM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2017, 11:39:33 PM »
HOLE # 5  CRADDOCK   Par 4  520  470   410
Plays as a mostly straight dogleg left, fairway and green shared with Hankins 12.


Didn't get tee shot view. This picture is from the left side fairway bunker, not a bad location. With H-12 playing in the same direction, center to right is best line.


Picture about 30 yds short right best shows green and bunker. Long shots will run into native area where
any lie is possible.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 08:25:30 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2017, 11:39:50 PM »
HOLE # 6   CRADDOCK   Par 4   405  380  325
Hole plays NE. Fairway shared with Hankins 12, opposite direction. Green shared with Hankins 11.


Tee view towards goal on hilltop. Fairway slopes gently right. I think the charm line is just left of the bunker
fronting green.


Mid fairway shows side slope.


View of green from front left.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 08:34:34 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2017, 11:40:04 PM »
HOLE # 7  CRADDOCK   Par 3  260 225 200
Drop shot playing NW. Green shared with Hankins 10


View of hole from back tee. Tree shouldn't block shots because hole should always be left or center.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 08:39:54 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2017, 11:40:17 PM »


HOLE # 8  CRADDOCK   Par 4  445 420 350
Up and over hole playing east. Shares fairway w/Hankins 10, opposite direction. Shares green w/Hankins 9


Blind tee shot should be played up the middle as the backside of the hill slopes to the right, which opens
up the green



View from ridge top


This picture shows the downslope, shot from Hankins 10 tee


Fall-away green, balls which reach should stay straight.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 08:18:48 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2017, 11:40:30 PM »

HOLE # 9  CRADDOCK    Par 4   (495) 425  350  305. The (495) is the newish pink tee, not shown but very near the 8th green.
Plays to the NW. Shares fairway with Hankins 9, opposite. Shares green with Hankins 8


Uphill, slight dogleg right. Drive should favor left side. This mid-hole shot shows the approach.
Green is in front of the low back bunker ridge. Right front bunker primarily for Hankins 8.  Open left.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 09:00:01 PM by Pete_Pittock »

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2017, 11:40:44 PM »



HOLE # 10  CRADDOCK    Par 3  205 160  120
Plays N. This is the first of three stand-alone holes. The first two head up a side valley west of the severe drop-off Hankins 8.



tee shot view. The green sits about 10-15 feet higher than the tee box. Fronting bunker guards the left half very well.
When the hole is cut behind the bunker I will play to the right and hope to two putt.


vew of the green from hole-high right side.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 08:58:17 PM by Pete_Pittock »

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2017, 11:41:01 PM »




HOLE # 11 CRADDOCK  Par 4   445  385 320
Plays N. Stand alone. Plays up the same valley as #10


Uphill view from the teeing area. I think the best play is right of the fist fairway bunker, seen in the second photo




green located above the left edge of fairway bunker. Strong contours on green and the left side of the green
ties in a husky ridge in front. Left half of the green is an extra club.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 09:13:48 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2017, 11:41:15 PM »

HOLE # 12  CRADDOCK    Par 3   190  155  135 
Plays SE. Stand alone hole which finished a (  to reach the area of Hankins 7 tee and the comfort area.



Equal elevation hole across a valley. Strong upslope before green must be carried.


Side view of green from the left.  Should try to carry to midgreen.



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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2017, 11:41:30 PM »


HOLE # 13  CRADDOCK 13   Par 5   550  520  475
Plays SE, moderately downhill.. Shares fairway with Hankins 6.  Stand alone green.


Back tee shot is elevated and crosses the Hankins green. Front tees by Hankins green. Fairway slopes strongly left,
may lead to stance problems. If left can also be blocked by trees.  Would the hole be better with tees on the left side?



This picture is taken from the front tees (by the Hankins green) shows a different perspective for the tee shot.
That should be played down the right side to have both an open view for the second shot and compensate for the sideslope of the fairway, down to the left.


The tee shot down the right side could provide this view. Go left and you have to avoid some trees.

the green, from front right.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 09:23:09 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2017, 11:41:43 PM »
HOLE #  14   CRADDOCK   Par 5   570   530  445
Hole plays downhill, SE. Fairway shared with Hankins 5 (opposite), green shared with Hankins 4.


Back tee shot again crosses Hankins green, shorter tees on right side of fairway. Green is in front of
background trees.


shot is to cross first bunker, which is maybe 100 yds short of the green


this front view looks straight forward, but...


this shot from the left side shows green movement.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2017, 10:59:46 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2017, 11:41:59 PM »

HOLE # 15  CRADDOCK  Par 4   315  290  275
Gently uphill playing SW. Shares fairway with Hankins 4. Shares fairway with Hankins 3.


Unless playing for the green, best strategy is play to the right for better angle. Left edge of green is at twin-trunked tree.


fronting bunker
« Last Edit: August 21, 2017, 11:10:31 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2017, 11:42:14 PM »


HOLE # 16  CRADDOCK   Par 4   410 365  290
Plays SE along right side hill. Shares fairway with Hankins 3. Stand alone green.


Tee shot


this is the view from left of center near 100 yds. Stay left of bunker and tree to open up the green..


From behind green, looking backwards.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 09:29:01 PM by Pete_Pittock »

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2017, 11:42:34 PM »


HOLE # 17 CRADDOCK  Par 4   490  420  365
Slightly downhill plays to NE. Good drive will reach Hankins 1 fairway, Shares green with Hankins 1.


Supposed to be a speed slot on the right side. Best play is towards the right bunker to open up green.
If you stay left you will be looking...


at this angle to the green.  Challenge the bunkers. For more pictures of the green check Hankins 1,
both holes should approach the green at the same angle.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2017, 11:27:26 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2017, 11:42:50 PM »

HOLE # 18  CRADDOCK    Par 4  360  325  290
Plays uphill S.   Maybe a shared fairway with Hankins 1. Stand alone green


Green opens up from the left, but a miss left maybe be lost in high grass.


Reverse view of triple level green from patio of the Hideaway.

« Last Edit: August 21, 2017, 11:33:28 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Buck Wolter

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2017, 12:05:44 AM »






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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch -hole-by hole Hankins 18 complete
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2017, 12:20:39 AM »
Thank you Buck. Should have thought of that.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 09:56:43 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch Hankins complete; Craddock map, card, pix thru 12
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2017, 01:31:11 AM »
taking a break for the eclipse.  Hope I can get the sun/moon thing into the center of the picture.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Silvies Ranch Hankins complete; Craddock map, card, pix thru 12
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2017, 12:03:05 PM »
taking a break for the eclipse.  Hope I can get the sun/moon thing into the center of the picture.


Pete, better not miss there's only 10+ million other people trying to take a picture of the exact same thing!!  ;D ;D

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch Hankins complete; Craddock map, card, pix thru 12
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2017, 11:39:44 PM »

My favorite holes are 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12.


Course ratings and slopes:


Hankins:
Back      71.8  120
Middle   68.1  115
Front      63.7  102


Craddock:
Back      71.9  120
Middle   68.6  118
Front      64.9  109






Pete_Pittock

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Re: Silvies Ranch photo tours Hankins complete; Craddock complete
« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2017, 12:36:47 PM »
Have been told that by a well-positioned source that course conditions have improved a lot in the last couple of months.

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