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Doug Siebert

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What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« on: June 20, 2017, 06:34:24 PM »
Due to an injury to my arm that curtailed my ability to swing a club this spring, I've only played three times so far - and one of them was in February. Since I feel like I'm rather unprepared for the 5th Major coming up in a couple days, I decided to give in to the modern age and finally buy a rangefinder. I've held out for years because I just don't think its right, but since I don't refuse the information others provide from theirs I felt like I was already cheating so I might as well go all-in and get one myself.


Not sure if having accurate distance information for every shot will make up for hardly playing, especially since it is always my tempo and short game that suffer from lack of play, but I can't buy anything for under $200 that will help those ;D


What sort of changes to your swing / clubs / balls / etc. have made you feel like you've sold off a part of your golfing soul?
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Mike Sweeney

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2017, 08:32:04 PM »

What sort of changes to your swing / clubs / balls / etc. have made you feel like you've sold off a part of your golfing soul?


I am now an 18 + 9 guy. Carrying 36 has to be a LONG summer day like today where I have a LONG break between rounds.

However, just for the record, I intend to destroy Mayday Malone on Thursday at Bethpage Black :)


Was practicing today and got a LARGE bucket :) Told my son, "these Philly guys have to go home with some pain" :)


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Joe Bausch

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2017, 10:23:35 PM »
My Philly guys will beat the Sweeney boys like a pair of obstinate mules!
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Tom_Doak

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2017, 12:05:05 AM »
Anytime I get a routing up over 7000 yards I feel like a sellout.

Pete Lavallee

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2017, 12:38:06 AM »
The M2 3 wood; its so easy to hit long high and straight shots that it sure feels like cheating. I resisted trying the driver which my consciounce said was going too far!
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Mike Feeney

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2017, 06:38:47 AM »
Bravo TD

"Anytime I get a routing up over 7000 yards I feel like a sellout."


Adam Lawrence

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 07:45:52 AM »
I think it was the acquisition of a lob wedge. I remember hitting a pitch shot over a bunker, the sort of shot that would have given me conniptions in the past, and it being so easy, I thought to myself 'I should not be able to hit that shot -- I am not a good enough golfer'. I still think there ought to be a maximum loft on clubs specified in the rules of golf... though how you would enforce it God alone knows.
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A.G._Crockett

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2017, 07:51:17 AM »
Due to an injury to my arm that curtailed my ability to swing a club this spring, I've only played three times so far - and one of them was in February. Since I feel like I'm rather unprepared for the 5th Major coming up in a couple days, I decided to give in to the modern age and finally buy a rangefinder. I've held out for years because I just don't think its right, but since I don't refuse the information others provide from theirs I felt like I was already cheating so I might as well go all-in and get one myself.


Not sure if having accurate distance information for every shot will make up for hardly playing, especially since it is always my tempo and short game that suffer from lack of play, but I can't buy anything for under $200 that will help those ;D


What sort of changes to your swing / clubs / balls / etc. have made you feel like you've sold off a part of your golfing soul?

Doug,
Go easy on yourself.  Think of the rangefinder as a quicker way than pacing to get a yardage; you are speeding up play, or at least not delaying it.  That's the opposite of a sellout.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Bill Shamleffer

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2017, 07:53:25 AM »
Anytime I have to ride in a golf cart.


I refuse to participate in school/church/charity golf outings, because they are always all cart riding.
(But can not really skip the workplace golf outing just to avoid the cart.)
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MCirba

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2017, 07:58:42 AM »
When I have to take a mandatory cart.

If all goes well I will also sell out equipment-wise, when I replace my 1998 Mizuno irons with something fresh and game-improving.   Prior to last year I was playing with 1988 Taylor Made blades.   I am truly not good enough nor do I play enough to continue that charade from 2-iron thru sand wedge.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2017, 07:59:08 AM »
I think it was the acquisition of a lob wedge. I remember hitting a pitch shot over a bunker, the sort of shot that would have given me conniptions in the past, and it being so easy, I thought to myself 'I should not be able to hit that shot -- I am not a good enough golfer'. I still think there ought to be a maximum loft on clubs specified in the rules of golf... though how you would enforce it God alone knows.
Me too.
I usually play with persimmon woods and old Hogan blades and a bullseye putter, and I knew that a lob wedge just wouldn't 'fit' in the bag. But then I was in a 2nd hand shop and came across a Hogan Legend 58 - as the name implies, a 58 degree wedge.
It was a Hogan, and it was old and rusty, and so I excitedly realized that it *would* fit.
I put it in my bag. On a Par 4 approach, I went way right -- I had to come over some trees and then over a green side bunker.
I used the Legend 58. It was like I was cheating. All I had to do was swing it, not even all that hard.
The ball flew over the trees, over the bunker, landed 10 feet past the pin...and stopped.
Did I say it felt like cheating?
It did. Half of me thinks it *is* cheating. I shouldn't be able to play that shot. I don't even ever *practice* that shot.
The club did it all. It made moot all the architect's clever work/design - laughed in the face of the risk-reward equation.
I don't care. There, I admit it.
It *is* like cheating. But since it *isn't*, technically speaking at least, cheating,  the Legend 58 is staying in the bag.   
Forever.
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Joe Schackman

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2017, 09:44:46 AM »
This thread is making me question myself as none of this strikes me as "selling out"...

Maybe I need to do some golf-soul searching.

BHoover

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2017, 10:18:58 AM »
When my wife bought me a Mackenzie bag for Xmas, and when I convinced myself that buying a pair of Trues was a good idea.

Mike Hendren

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2017, 11:20:40 AM »
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Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Ian Mackenzie

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2017, 11:24:07 AM »
1. When I retired my 4 iron and replaced it with a 24 degree hybrid.


It was like when I bought my first pair of parabolic skis.


2. When I bought a range finder


3. When I bought one of this big fat Super Stroke grips for my putter.


Ok, so i sold out....;-)

John Kavanaugh

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2017, 11:25:25 AM »
I went to GolfWeek.com today to see if they ever posted the top 200.

Joe Sponcia

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2017, 11:27:48 AM »
Great question, for me, I just bought this bag:





It's 3.5lbs.  Single strap, easy to carry, yet sometimes I'll put it on a push cart and feel kind of dumb, but my shoulders start getting fatigued at around the 12-13th hole at age 45.  Oddly, I don't judge people in push carts but kind of judge myself when using one(?)...but don't want this to get into a debate like we've had before on pushing/trolleys etc.


Secondly, I keep looking at new irons.  I have a set of r9 Tp's with old(er) lofts (my wedge is 47), but can't pull the trigger on new one's with a 43-44 degree wedge because I don't want to be that guy that says I just hit a 150 yard wedge.  I have active recoil channel on my driver but at least the loft isn't 3.5 degrees. 


Third(ly), I keep wanting to try the new Taylor made TPx ball because I've heard it will pump me up another 4-6 yards...but I rail on the ball being juiced so much, ruining our beloved game, that I can't buy those either (yet).  I don't want to go back to hickories per se, but as Mr. Doak said, anything over 7,000 yards (like I played on vacation) feels like a sell out even thought I can handle the yardage.  I just wish the ball/equipment would stay in the Nicklaus/Palmer era distance/flight-wise.  Watching baseball the other day, which I rarely do, reminded me of how beautiful the game can be minus a wooden bat filled with slots and elastomer.






Joe


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Sean Ogle

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2017, 11:28:39 AM »
With as much as I play now, I almost always take a push cart over carrying (unless I'm playing some place really special). Used to have a lot more ego about it, but then I realized my back was more important than my ego.

Kalen Braley

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2017, 11:29:06 AM »
First world problems.


P.S.  The things I feel guilty over have nothing to do with golf...

MCirba

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2017, 11:46:41 AM »
Push/pull carts are not a sellout but should be viewed as a badge of honor.
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Ryan Hillenbrand

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2017, 12:02:51 PM »
When I started collecting logo shirts from top 100 courses. Every once in a while I still like to show up at an event populated by CPC and Pine Valley logos wearing my Izod shirts. Not the cool Izod Lacoste brand mind you, the outlet mall kind my parents buy me in Naples.

A.G._Crockett

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2017, 12:32:16 PM »
First world problems.


P.S.  The things I feel guilty over have nothing to do with golf...

Amen. 

And I'll go one step farther.  ANYTHING that makes or enables one to play more golf and/or enjoy golf more isn't a sell out.

BTW, to "sell out" can mean going all in, rather than just meaning betraying a cause.  And I've never understood how you could be betraying a cause by keeping up with equipment developments anyway; I mean, it's not like any of us are hitting rocks with a shepherd's crook to see how far it will go, right?  Beyond that, drawing some arbitrary line for "selling out" has always seemed to me to be the worst form of sanctimony.

But that's just me; I don't do guilt.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

John Kavanaugh

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2017, 12:46:16 PM »
When my wife bought me a Mackenzie bag for Xmas, and when I convinced myself that buying a pair of Trues was a good idea.


Did she go with the tartan & celtic leash? http://www.mackenziebelts.com/ShopOnline.aspx#!/~/category/id=3206203&offset=0&sort=normal

BHoover

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2017, 12:50:42 PM »
When my wife bought me a Mackenzie bag for Xmas, and when I convinced myself that buying a pair of Trues was a good idea.


Did she go with the tartan & celtic leash? http://www.mackenziebelts.com/ShopOnline.aspx#!/~/category/id=3206203&offset=0&sort=normal


She did not.

Mark Pritchett

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Re: What has made you feel like a "sell out"?
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2017, 01:24:02 PM »
Walking and carrying whilst playing hickory. 

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