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Jeff Loh

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2017, 08:07:50 AM »
And unlike many others in Westchester and Fairfield Counties Sleepy presents itself beautifully.
It doesn't need silly fast greens and super high "rough."


Litmus test: 10 Rounds. Sleepy Hollow. Winged Foot West.


How would you divide them up?


corey miller

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2017, 12:21:56 PM »

I have my answer though years ago the question would be laughable.

Something to be said for not having the typical "parkland" setting and being playable and fun for all.  ;)

Dean Paolucci

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2017, 08:14:55 PM »
This year I would select 7 rounds at Sleepy Hollow and 3 at Winged Foot.  Based on the 2017 changes and the improvements to come in 2018 (the other 9 holes - 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 15, 16, 17, & 18) I would play 9 at Sleepy and 1 at Winged Foot with all due respect.
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."  --  Mark Twain

jeffwarne

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2017, 08:56:48 PM »
9-1 SH
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Keith Phillips

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2017, 10:01:35 PM »
A very interesting exercise - I've played Sleepy a few times (all with Dean!) and WFW only once.  My recollection of WFW is that most greens required an aerial approach to elevated, well-bunkered greens...at least on the day I played I concluded I wasn't a good enough player for such a layout, and have had far more fun at Sleepy which - while certainly offering plentiful challenge - has struck me as 'more fun' and 'less penal' than Winged Foot.  This is a nice segue to Doak's 'Little Red Book', wherein he had some comment about how golf is meant to be fun...Sleepy Hollow is not only outstanding it is also FUN!

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2017, 10:06:46 PM »
And unlike many others in Westchester and Fairfield Counties Sleepy presents itself beautifully.
It doesn't need silly fast greens and super high "rough."


Litmus test: 10 Rounds. Sleepy Hollow. Winged Foot West.


How would you divide them up?


I think the real test, at least for this group, is a 10 round split between Sleepy Hollow and Winged Foot East.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2017, 06:45:04 AM »
This may be the most intriguing set of golf course photos I've ever seen.   Magnificent!

Jeff Loh

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2017, 07:59:50 AM »
Mark
Excellent point. I was pandering to the ratings/numbers posse.
Sleepy/Wykagyl would be fun too.

Matthew Prince

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2017, 09:45:08 AM »
7 Sleepy ,3 WFW

Tim Martin

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2017, 09:21:10 AM »
6 Sleepy Hollow
4 WFE

John Kirk

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2017, 10:42:32 AM »
I had the pleasure of playing Sleepy Hollow about three weeks ago.  It is a special place and golf course.  New Yorkers have it so nice for great golf courses and beautiful neighborhoods.

It's hard to add upon the various comments offered so far, but I'll do my best.

1.  Uniqueness - I felt I was playing a course with a unique routing and walk.  You make sort of a hook-shaped walk.  After an opening hole, you walk steeply up the 2nd hole to a high plateau that sits above and behind the clubhouse.  You play holes 3-16 up on this rocky, undulating plateau where many times you can see much of the golf course to be played.  The 17th takes you back down to the valley, and the 18th back up to the clubhouse, to complete the walk.

2.  Shaping and authenticity - The bunkers and greens are designed in an austere fashion, with uncomplicated (often geometric) shapes.  The remodeled 10th and 14th greens have unusually (prehistoric looking) sharp ridges bisecting the surface.  The bunkers tend to have flat sand surfaces with prominent grass faces.  Mr. Hanse used approximately the same bunkering style at Waverley here in Portland, a renovation which transformed and improved the course dramatically.  Despite the bold nature of the hazards and greens, everything about the design is understated.  Further augmentation and shaping of the features was unnecessary.

3.  Predictable - After struggling all week in NY/NJ, I had a nice round at Sleepy Hollow.  After making a big fuss over a 10 foot birdie putt on the short par-5 6th hole, where I asked everybody how the putt broke, and then pushed the putt way off line, I got very energized and engaged, and played well the rest of the day.  Everybody sort of let me be for the rest of the round.  The caddies and my host didn't offer too many suggestions.  The senior caddie stepped in and changed my club selection on the par-4 15th "Punchbowl" hole.  Thoughtful advice was also given on the tee shots at #14 and #17.  For the experienced golfer, a course like Sleepy Hollow is logical and predictable.  Even on the first try, I needed limited input, as the course provides good visual cues where to play.    In general, you could tell what needed to be done, and in my opinion that is an admirable trait.  Sleepy Hollow offered an excellent balance of challenge, predictability and forgiveness for missed shots.  Not too easy, and not too hard.

My day at Sleepy Hollow was the rare occasion that a course excited my senses, and inspired me to play better golf.

Dean Paolucci

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Re: Amazing Changes at Sleepy Hollow
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2017, 07:01:28 PM »
John - Thank you for your comments.  I think they corroborate the vast sentiment of those who have contributed.  I find it interesting that no one has mentioned the breathtaking view looking West across the Hudson River.  Jon Cavaliers' last photo in this thread at sunset says it all!
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."  --  Mark Twain

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