[Thomas Dai]

Open aspect courses are the most likely to enable this scenario but even then I've seen birds and dogs and kids pick up balls and the player never sees the ball again.
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[Tony_Muldoon]

do you have a list of the top 100 holes in the world?

I only have a list of the top 100 holes that I personally have played. T h a t  i s  w h y  I  p o s e d  t h e  q u e s t i o n. I'm searching for why people hate losing balls on holes that they love.

How many par 3's in your top 100?
 
Ronald read George Peppers 2 years in St Andrews. He regularly found balls off the 18th in his garden.

[Sean_A]

This is a much harder question than it initially seems.  In fact, I am not convinced that the top 100 isn't a default list.  I am struggling to think of a hole in which it is impossible to lose a golf ball...which is probably the point of JakaB's pointed question. Mind you, I think the question becomes far more interesting if we say there is a reasonable expectation that an 18 capper won't lose a ball.

Ciao

[Tony_Muldoon]

I am struggling to think of a hole in which it is impossible to lose a golf ball...which is probably the point of JakaB's pointed question. 

Ciao

The Redan? Hard to lose any ball within 220 yards forward of the tee?  An 18 handicapper hitting it off line is much less likely to hit it a shorter and safer distance.

[Sean_A]

Ahhh, I saw a guy lose whose ball between Redan and the 3rd!  It was obviously a dreadfully hoicked hook, but the ball was lost in a sea of rough. That said, Redan is definitely a hole where it is a reasonable expactation that an 18 capper couldn't lose a ball. Bottom line, the architecture played no part in this crime.  That said, it sure would be nice if when playing the 3rd that there wasn't so much rough on the left...not ideal.


Ciao

[James Boon]

T'other James B,


The rough on 14 at Dornoch can get pretty long. Thankfully I've never lost a ball there myself, but a pull into the left rough can lead to a lost ball easily.


Is there a hole at Brora that could be considered top 100? If so, and its not one of the burn holes then thats a good candidate as the rough there is kept down by the 4 legged greenstaff.


Cheers,


James

[Mark Pearce]

Cypress Point #9 and 13

On my one play bat CPC one of my playing partners lost a ball on 9.  In fact I think losing a ball there is relatively easy, isn't it?

[Tom_Doak]

Cypress Point #9 and 13

On my one play bat CPC one of my playing partners lost a ball on 9.  In fact I think losing a ball there is relatively easy, isn't it?

Where did he lose the ball?  Down the hill on the right?  Amazingly I've never hit one down there, but my memory was that you ought to be able to find it if you actually looked for it.  I guess many people would be "encouraged" to play their provisional and forget about it.

[Ronald Montesano]

Prediction (No 4/1 humor here):


No hole will receive consensus. Someone will always have a rejoinder.


There is a massive difference in intellectual and agressive tendencies among 18 'caps, as there is with all other 'caps. How they play a purportedly-simple hole differs.

[John Kavanaugh]

Ron,


A purportedly-simple hole would have a tough time being one of the best holes in the world. I personally love the feeling I get in my gut over the anxiety of losing my golf ball during a poorly executed shot. Sometimes you know it's going deep right on the downswing.


btw: I think everyone can agree that the 10th at Riviera qualifies and the 17th at Sand Hills would not.

[Mark Pearce]

Cypress Point #9 and 13

On my one play bat CPC one of my playing partners lost a ball on 9.  In fact I think losing a ball there is relatively easy, isn't it?

Where did he lose the ball?  Down the hill on the right?  Amazingly I've never hit one down there, but my memory was that you ought to be able to find it if you actually looked for it.  I guess many people would be "encouraged" to play their provisional and forget about it.

Yes.  We did look for it for a good while but couldn't find it.

[Jason Thurman]

5 at Pinehurst No. 2 is about the best I can come up with.

[John Kavanaugh]

5 at Pinehurst No. 2 is about the best I can come up with.

Funny thing about No. 2. It's such a great course you know there has to be one hole out there that fits the bill, but damn if they don't all remember the same.

[Dave McCollum]

I expected to lose a lot of balls playing in Scotland for the first (and only) time.  I took 4 dozen balls plus the few in my bag.  At the end of 16 rounds, I sold 47 unused balls to a chap in a North Berwick pub.  He was delighted to buy good balls so cheaply.  Perhaps it was the time of year (May), but I didn’t lose many.  A few years after in October, I took less to Ireland and lost them all in vicious rough.  I was a little better than 18 cap—more like a ten—but a crappy enough golfer to lose balls.

[David Davis]

How about most holes at Old Mac...pretty hard to lose a ball out there except for maybe in the water on 17.

[Jason Thurman]

5 at Pinehurst No. 2 is about the best I can come up with.

Funny thing about No. 2. It's such a great course you know there has to be one hole out there that fits the bill, but damn if they don't all remember the same.

It's true. I think part of the reason that the holes run together is that it's a "death by a thousand papercuts" course, and most of the bad decisions and bad shots in a golfer's round are punished with quiet severity. It's more like a psychological thriller than an action movie, basically. But 5 is one spot where extremely unsubtle punishment can get dished out.


I like unsubtle punishment once in a while, and it's pretty hard to find on holes where a high handicapper doesn't risk losing an occasional ball. I'm thinking it pretty much requires one of the most devastating greensites or bunkers in the world.

[Carl Johnson]

Dude, I mean DUDE...the fairway is 400 yards wide!!! Take that and smoke it in your pipe.

 

#18 at St. Andrews Old Course

Please. It's hard OB on the right.

O.K., and just because it's O.B. doesn't mean it's (the ball) "lost."

[cary lichtenstein]

I lost a friend who could lose a ball on any hole in the Universe

[Sean_A]

do you have a list of the top 100 holes in the world?

I'm searching for why people hate losing balls on holes that they love.

Hmmmm.  Reminds me of a guy who said he didn't like anti-war films. Well, who the hell wants to make a pro war film?  My guess is that list is short and littered with psychos.

Ciao

[Ted Sirbaugh]

How about most holes at Old Mac...pretty hard to lose a ball out there except for maybe in the water on 17.

Old Mac #1 was one of the first holes to come to my mind

[J_ Crisham]

18 at Shinnecock , 12 at Chicago Golf Club, 2 and 8 at Old Elm , 9 at Milwaukee CC , 16 at Medinah for starters

[MClutterbuck]

Indian Creek Country Club #7. That is W. Flynn's Indian Creek.

Oh, we know the course. We just can't play it. Hard to believe there is a single hole on that island not with a water hazard, let alone a great one.

I was very fortunate to get invited to play with my father a long time ago. Wish I could see it again.


There are actually only 3 holes with water. The 4th, and the excellent par3 12 and par 4 4th. There are a bunch of OB holes though, but still a number of excellent inland holes. #7 is a shortish par 4, dogleg right with great bunkering right and short of the green.


I could have included the par 5 9th hole as well, with a great approach framed by the club house and the causeway behind it.

[Sven Nilsen]

How about most holes at Old Mac...pretty hard to lose a ball out there except for maybe in the water on 17.

Old Mac #1 was one of the first holes to come to my mind

It happens more than you think. 


The best bets for OM are probably #2 and #8. 


There are spots on most of the rest of the holes that can sneak up on you, with the obvious ones being left on 3, 4, 6 and 7, the gorse long of the green on 9, left of the green on 10, the gorse to the right of the landing zone on 11, long on 12 (although much of the trouble has been cleared out), long on 14, either side of the fairway and long on 15, and a myriad of places on 16 and 17.  Even on 18 the gorse off the back left corner of the green sneaks in pretty quickly for anything pulled that way. 

[Ed Brzezowski]

#18 at St. Andrews Old Course

Please. It's hard OB on the right.

had a ball come into the bar at Russacks while sitting there, we didn't throw it back.

[Dave McCollum]

How about most holes at Old Mac...pretty hard to lose a ball out there except for maybe in the water on 17.

I lost one by popping up a drive that came down in the gorse.  The silly part was about 5 seconds before I hit it I said it was impossible to lose a ball on this course.  Don't remember the hole, but it wasn't 17.

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