Difficult greens are to the key to building a great golf course

[Jim Hoak]

Interesting topic.  I might agree that all great courses have "interesting" greens, but not necessarily "difficult."  I think great greens are varied, but basically flat with gentle longer slopes.  I do not care for greens with "moguls" buried in the middle of the greens, slopes that repel will-hit puts, or similar things.  I draw a distinction between the slopes of MacKenzie and those of some of the modern designers, where the slopes are too pronounced, too obvious, too severe in too short an area.

[Kalen Braley]

Interesting topic.  I might agree that all great courses have "interesting" greens, but not necessarily "difficult."  I think great greens are varied, but basically flat with gentle longer slopes.  I do not care for greens with "moguls" buried in the middle of the greens, slopes that repel will-hit puts, or similar things.  I draw a distinction between the slopes of MacKenzie and those of some of the modern designers, where the slopes are too pronounced, too obvious, too severe in too short an area.

Jim,


I can't think of a more severe green I've ever played than Pasa 16.  The slopes on that green are beyond pronounced and obvious.

[Jeff_Brauer]

Just what I want....someone reading my bill collection papers 80 years from now, instead of reading about my courses!