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Joe Hancock

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I am but a simpleton. Here's my take on this issue:

Be a good steward; don't waste resources, do the things that make sense for everyone, not just yourself. Take care of your trash, and keep your car/ furnace/ other fossil fuel engines in good condition. Yes, it costs time and money to do so, but do it.

As long as we keep having babies, and utilizing medicine to live longer, we have to accept a certain amount of these issues. The population will continue to grow. People will use more space, energy, etc.

No one knows what happened 500,000 years ago, nor do we know what will happen 500,000 years from now. Live responsibly now, and teach the next generation correctly.
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

Kalen Braley

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Not to worry all....this crackpot thinks we only have another 100 years or so to figure things out.

What the hell does he know...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/636053/Stephen-Hawking-reveals-science-advances-could-DESTROY-HUMANITY

Matt Kardash

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No one knows what happened 500,000 years ago, nor do we know what will happen 500,000 years from now. Live responsibly now, and teach the next generation correctly.

Actually we can.We have climate data going back 800,000 years due to Antarctic ice cores. So we have a pretty good idea of the temperature variations going back almost a million years.
the interviewer asked beck how he felt "being the bob dylan of the 90's" and beck quitely responded "i actually feel more like the bon jovi of the 60's"

Joe Hancock

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No one knows what happened 500,000 years ago, nor do we know what will happen 500,000 years from now. Live responsibly now, and teach the next generation correctly.

Actually we can.We have climate data going back 800,000 years due to Antarctic ice cores. So we have a pretty good idea of the temperature variations going back almost a million years.

Not relevant to the discussion, but "a pretty good idea" has had more than a 50% failure rate when I've implemented such, according to my wife.
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

Matt Kardash

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No one knows what happened 500,000 years ago, nor do we know what will happen 500,000 years from now. Live responsibly now, and teach the next generation correctly.

Actually we can.We have climate data going back 800,000 years due to Antarctic ice cores. So we have a pretty good idea of the temperature variations going back almost a million years.

Not relevant to the discussion, but "a pretty good idea" has had more than a 50% failure rate when I've implemented such, according to my wife.

At times like this I wish there was a "Like" button
the interviewer asked beck how he felt "being the bob dylan of the 90's" and beck quitely responded "i actually feel more like the bon jovi of the 60's"

Steve Lang

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 8)  Love them ice ages... and their CO2 concentration rates of change, where'd that CO2 go??




Looks like CO2 pretty much goes into the ocean, and personally its hard to buy the "tipping point" scare concept





... and folks, please stop calling CO2 an "element", its a molecule !


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Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

Niall C

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In terms of impact on courses, here's an article about everybody's favourite climate change sceptic... Donald Trump... and his insistence on having a wall built to protect his precious asset. And no, I don't mean the Mexican wall - this one's at Doonbeg, which was hammered in 2014 and has been receiving quite a battering these recent months. Irish Examiner Article


Same risk applies to several other courses on these shores


Kevin


Are you confusing winter storms with climate change ? Links courses have always been susceptible to taking a battering from winter weather with coastlines being washed away etc, but the point of the OP is not the affect of storms but rising sea levels IIRMC.


Niall

Kevin Markham

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Kevin


Are you confusing winter storms with climate change ? Links courses have always been susceptible to taking a battering from winter weather with coastlines being washed away etc, but the point of the OP is not the affect of storms but rising sea levels IIRMC.


Niall


Fair point if we're only talking about ocean rises! But I'd hazard a guess that climate change and winter storms can't be inseparable.

Steve Lang

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 8)  From down under... the folks at CSIRO say


 
http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_hist_intro.html
HISTORICAL SEA LEVEL CHANGES
Long term
Introduction
The last 140,000 years
The last few thousand years
Introduction
A very brief history of sea level:
Over the last 140,000 years sea level has varied over a range of more than 120 metres. The most recent large change was an increase of more than 120 metres as the last ice age ended
Sea level stabilised over the last few thousand years, and there was little change between about 1AD and 1800AD
Sea level began to rise again in the 19th century and accelerated again in the early 20th century
Satellite altimeter measurements show a rate of sea-level rise of about 3 mm/year since the early 1990s - a further increase in the rate
The last 140,000 years
Sea level varied by over 100 metres during glacial-interglacial cycles as the major ice sheets waxed and waned as a result of changes in summer solar radiation in high northern hemisphere latitudes. Paleo data from corals indicate that sea level was 4 to 6 m (or more) above present day sea levels during the last interglacial period, about 125 000 years ago.

Perhaps if golf courses had been build 125,000 years ago, there wouldn't be anything to worry about today!
Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

JC Jones

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No surprise the guy in the oil/gas industry is pulling the company line here.   ;D ;D
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Steve Lang

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 8) JCJ,

You know I only seek truth and knowledge like my hero Sgt. Friday:

"All we want (or "know") are the facts, ma'am".

... and I also seek a nip from the mailbox at the 18th tee.. or your presence at the Bel this summer :o

Unfortunately facts on this subject have been assaulted a bit by some folks... even CSIRO used to publish data showing less than 2 mm/yr sea rise, but that was back in the 70's when global cooling was the rage..
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 11:26:57 AM by Steve Lang »
Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

JC Jones

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8) JCJ,

You know I only seek truth and knowledge like my hero Sgt. Friday:

"All we want (or "know") are the facts, ma'am".

... and I also seek a nip from the mailbox at the 18th tee.. or your presence at the Bel this summer :o

Unfortunately facts on this subject have been assaulted a bit by some folks... even CSIRO used to publish data showing less than 2 mm/yr sea rise, but that was back in the 70's when global cooling was the rage..

Hopefully we'll both be up north at the same time this summer.

Now, if only Exxon agreed with you....
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

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