[Mike Hendren]

This entire Trump deal is a phenomenon.  He doesn't pay for any of this press and the more that hits the more press he gets.  The guy hasn't won anything yet and he's being barred and all sorts of things.  He makes Rodney Dangerfield look like an amateur...Watch..he will come out making money on all of this stuff.   He doesn't want to be president.

+1  Proving once again you just can't fool a good hillbilly.
 
I said six months ago that Trump doesn't want to be president.  He  keeps trying to disqualify himself - suicide by media, but far too many folks in the country have gotten too far up his backside and are just plain hacked off.  He'll get there eventually.  Recall he said that he would drop out of the race if he fell behind?  He's set, the morons just need to come to their senses. 
 
Thanks Mike. 

[BCowan]

Those who think this is all political posturing for the primaries would do well to research the racist practices of his and his father's companies in the New York area in the 70's.

I just wish Jud would practice what he preaches and stop playing all male golf clubs in Chicago.  When will the progressives stop the war on woman?  I guess if said course has architectural importance one looks the other way.  Double talkin jive.

[jeffwarne]

 
  Recall he said that he would drop out of the race if he fell behind?  He's set, the morons just need to come to their senses. 
 

Isn't a "moron coming to his senses" an OXYmoron?


What if he tries so hard NOT to be elected that we find out the moron vote is enough to be elected?

[Jud_T]

Those who think this is all political posturing for the primaries would do well to research the racist practices of his and his father's companies in the New York area in the 70's.

I just wish Jud would practice what he preaches and stop playing all male golf clubs in Chicago.  When will the progressives stop the war on woman?  I guess if said course has architectural importance one looks the other way.  Double talkin jive.

I'll stop playin' 'em the day you stop being the laughing stock of GCA who thinks all our problems are due to going off the gold standard.

[BCowan]

Those who think this is all political posturing for the primaries would do well to research the racist practices of his and his father's companies in the New York area in the 70's.

I just wish Jud would practice what he preaches and stop playing all male golf clubs in Chicago.  When will the progressives stop the war on woman?  I guess if said course has architectural importance one looks the other way.  Double talkin jive.

I'll stop playin' 'em the day you stop being the laughing stock of GCA who thinks all our problems are due to going off the gold standard.

Jud,

    Believe me there are many here that enjoy all your posts.  You are the Gold plated standard Jud...

[Mike_Young]

Oh gosh...are you telling me JT plays all male clubs?  That's terrible.  He must be one of those progressives....I don't like their motives but they have a pretty good insurance company.

I would never do that if i knew it.  Now I play clubs where women play all the time.  BUT I  have a policy that I just will not play golf with women and don't want them playing in front of me....

[Jason Thurman]

But he's so good for the game! Wonder how that C&C project is coming along.

Toxic is a good word.
I expressed many similar insights on Trump when he purchased Doral.
Excess and buffoonery are never "good for game"
Of course I never thought he would take it to this level
Out of respect for my radio show partner whose checks are signed by the buffoon, I softened my remarks on this site about Doral and Trump in general many months ago.


I was just in Morocco and spent a day at the American embassy, where I learned Morocco was the first country to recognize the US as a country in 1777, and later confirmed it in 1787.
My group and I visited multiple Moroccan cities and encountered literally hundreds of thousands of people (just in the market of Marakech alone )
None in our very visibly Western group encountered even one antiwestern remark or even less than a friendly look.
I felt incredibly safe everywhere I traveled-much more than many US neighboring countries or even US cities.
To paint the entire Muslim community with the same broad brush would be the same as barring all Christians from travelling because an extremists blew up an abortion clinic or a Catholic was responsible for a bomb in Northern Ireland.


The last thing this country needs is a potential leader spewing ignorant divisive hate (exactly what Isis wants)
I'm just amazed anyone of any intelligence can defend anything the buffoon says regarding golf or anything else.
I'm also amazed when people comment how intelligent he and his advisiors are. (Ignorant, abrasive, and rude aren't qualities I associate with intelligent)
I would never and will never patronize a Trump property-originally not so much to make a statement but more because I just don't enjoy any of the thing that his organization values in its presentation of golf.
So many great courses-no need to see the asshole traps.


Amazed it too such such extreme behavior by Trump to change many otherwise seemingly intelligent minds, but I'm thrilled I don't have to watch this buffoon spew more drivel at golf's oldest and most important championship.

+1. Although I'm optimistic that when he inevitably either drops out of the race or gets soundly defeated, he will announce that his entire campaign was a piece of performance art illustrating the incredible stupidity of the dumbest 10% of the US population, and that his goal all along was to shine a light for the rest of us on the biggest bigots and booger-eaters among our acquaintances that we might not have previously recognized. Or that he just wanted to show us that he's the world's greatest troll.

[Niall C]

They needed to be proactive on this and make a statement before it became an issue and sponsors started to get pressure.

Phil


I take it you are referring to the R&A ? Given it has never been announced that Turnberry were getting a future Open then how is it an issue for the R&A and their sponsors beyond deciding which one of the other courses that are in the frame that they should eventually go with ?


Niall

[David Sucher]

"Good for golf" and "Good for the golf business" are two different things.
No?

[jeffwarne]

"Good for golf" and "Good for the golf business" are two different things.
No?

He's not good for either.

[David Davis]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that Royal Porthcawl will be the replacement venue. The Welsh are dying to get an Open and the course with some already proposed adjustments would be a wonderful place to hold it.


Just saying...

[Eric Smith]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that Royal Porthcawl will be the replacement venue. The Welsh are dying to get an Open and the course with some already proposed adjustments would be a wonderful place to hold it.


Just saying...

Now THAT would be cool. Any word on whether plans to develop the former rest home next door are still in the works? Would make a great addition to the golf scene if it were to be turned into a hotel.

[Adrian_Stiff]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that Royal Porthcawl will be the replacement venue. The Welsh are dying to get an Open and the course with some already proposed adjustments would be a wonderful place to hold it.


Just saying...

Think Wales and the R & A would love it too tick the boxes but the computer says no. The R & A had another good look at it a couple of years ago. It's pretty tight to get the stands up around the greens and some of the back tees edge up close to other fairways. The Senior championship is there again soon.


I think the only chance of there ever being a replacement venue is if RSG was taken off the rota then I suspect Deal could replace it.

[David Davis]

Think Wales and the R & A would love it too tick the boxes but the computer says no. The R & A had another good look at it a couple of years ago. It's pretty tight to get the stands up around the greens and some of the back tees edge up close to other fairways. The Senior championship is there again soon.


I think the only chance of there ever being a replacement venue is if RSG was taken off the rota then I suspect Deal could replace it.

Adrian, there is fairly large piece of land available (maybe even already owned by the club) to the right of the course in the picture Eric posted. It could fit 3 Open quality holes. I believe the R&A has already seen this possible set up. A few other holes would be changed for the Championships but not need to be changed for the members. It seemed a great solution and should all but resolve the space issue.


Eric, agree that would be really cool to renovate that place, but really really expensive.

[Adam Lawrence]

David, I think that you're leaping to conclusions a bit re Porthcawl. No doubt there is a strong desire to go there, and the R&A has shown it is quite prepared to find solutions to enable venues to be practical. The fact they haven't yet managed it at Porthcawl -- and you shouldn't underestimate just how strong the push has been, from the Welsh government's agencies that have spent so much on developing golf tourism -- suggests the problems are pretty intense.


I also think that saying 'Turnberry is off the rota' is missing the point. Turnberry is an occasional Open venue, once every ten to fifteen years or thereabouts. If it skips one Open that could be thirty years without the championship. It wouldn't be off the rota, it would just miss out once. It will be back.

[Rich Goodale]

Turnberry wil be back, and maybe sooner rather than later.  I can envisage President "The Donald" Trump whispering into Lizzie Windsor's ancient ears when they first meet on the USS Ronald Reagan in the "English" Channel (given that POTUS will still be banned from entering Britain)......

[Adam Lawrence]

Turnberry wil be back, and maybe sooner rather than later.  I can envisage President "The Donald" Trump whispering into Lizzie Windsor's ancient ears when they first meet on the USS Ronald Reagan in the "English" Channel (given that POTUS will still be banned from entering Britain)......

I can't

[Ed Tilley]

Think Wales and the R & A would love it too tick the boxes but the computer says no. The R & A had another good look at it a couple of years ago. It's pretty tight to get the stands up around the greens and some of the back tees edge up close to other fairways. The Senior championship is there again soon.


I think the only chance of there ever being a replacement venue is if RSG was taken off the rota then I suspect Deal could replace it.

Adrian, there is fairly large piece of land available (maybe even already owned by the club) to the right of the course in the picture Eric posted. It could fit 3 Open quality holes. I believe the R&A has already seen this possible set up. A few other holes would be changed for the Championships but not need to be changed for the members. It seemed a great solution and should all but resolve the space issue.


Eric, agree that would be really cool to renovate that place, but really really expensive.

It would seem to me - as a non architect - that the best place for 3 new holes would be west of the 3rd along the shoreline. You could have a 4 and 3 along the shore and a 5 coming back inland. You could lose the current 6,7, and 8. Practice ground where it is now, putting green would be current 8th green. Start at 9, finishing hole is current 5 - would be room for stands around that green as there is farmland to one side and the (now unused 6th tee to the other). Tented village etc. would be on the farmland to the north of the 5th. Would be a great back nine - current 18, 1-5 and 3 new holes along the bay.

[Rich Goodale]

Turnberry wil be back, and maybe sooner rather than later.  I can envisage President "The Donald" Trump whispering into Lizzie Windsor's ancient ears when they first meet on the USS Ronald Reagan in the "English" Channel (given that POTUS will still be banned from entering Britain)......

I can't

Adam

How about if I'd used the word "imagine" rather than "envisage"?

"Imagine"
 
  Imagine there's no heaven
 It's easy if you try
 No hell below us
 Above us only sky
 Imagine all the people
 Living for today...
 
 Imagine there's no countries
 It isn't hard to do
 Nothing to kill or die for
 And no religion too
 Imagine all the people
 Living life in peace...
 
 You may say I'm a dreamer
 But I'm not the only one
 I hope someday you'll join us
 And the world will be as one
 
 Imagine no possessions
 I wonder if you can
 No need for greed or hunger
 A brotherhood of man
 Imagine all the people
 Sharing all the world...
 
 You may say I'm a dreamer
 But I'm not the only one
 I hope someday you'll join us
 And the world will live as one

Rich
 

[Adam Lawrence]

You are lucky, Rich, that I loathe that song, seeing it as the demented ravings of a self-indulgent millionaire. If I were of the school that sees it as the highest expression of human wisdom, I should have to hunt you down like a rabid dog for poisoning it with your diabolical imagery.

[Tony_Muldoon]

You are lucky, Rich, that I loathe that song, seeing it as the demented ravings of a self-indulgent millionaire. If I were of the school that sees it as the highest expression of human wisdom, I should have to hunt you down like a rabid dog for poisoning it with your diabolical imagery.

Yes, Adam Yes, Yes, Yes.  You only forgot to say how turgid the melody is.


For Lennon's 40th birthday party Elton John thought it would be fun to sing him a parody of his best know song, reflecting life in the Dakota Building.


Imagine six apartments
 It isn't hard to do.
 One is full of fur coats
 The other's full of shoes…


Neither John or Yoko saw the funny side....

[Matt Dawson]

A song written of course at Kenwood, his humble abode on the 3rd at St George's Hill

Which might be considered a little ironic...

[Duncan Cheslett]

For Lennon's 40th birthday party Elton John thought it would be fun to sing him a parody of his best know song, reflecting life in the Dakota Building.


Imagine six apartments
 It isn't hard to do.
 One is full of fur coats
 The other's full of shoes…

Did he get Bernie to write that for him? 

[Duncan Cheslett]

A song written of course at Kenwood, his humble abode on the 3rd at St George's Hill

Which might be considered a little ironic...

I might be wrong, but surely at that stage Lennon could not leave the USA for fear of not being allowed back in...

[Adrian_Stiff]

2022 will be the earliest for Trump Turnberry and 2023 more likely as 2021 will probably be Lytham. RSG got confirmed today for 2020 and its pretty widely known where the 2021 (150th) championship will go.

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