[Adam Clayman]

Nothing bewilders more than seeing antithetical nuances on the one course that should be writing the book on sophisticated design and maintenance melds. Instead we are being barraged with a coordinated media campaign justifying the changes made on the old sod.

The much discussed Road Hole is now a disgusting example of tasteless, and clueless, modern mindsets. Sure the left rough has been returned to a recoverable presentation. And, The lines of the rebuilt bunker can be argued, aesthetically, till the cows come home at 5;45, but, it's that strip of rough, along the right side of the green, that can't be ignored, or excused. Growing the grass longer between the road and the green is diametrically opposed to core principles, all the while removing recoveries as memorable, or creative, as Costantina Rocca's.

Both alterations have at least one thing in common. Their entire justification for being, are to stop the player from "being able to do that". "that" being, having the ability to be creative enough to think of the shot they're trying to preclude, and the guts, skill and ability to pull it off. 

[Brent Hutto]

nevermind

[BCrosby]

Adam -


I think I understand what you are saying.


There is an argument to be made that Dawson does not understand the sources of TOC's special place in the history of the game.


Bob

[Adam Clayman]

Bob, If I could write like you, maybe, it would be understandable.

Surely it beats ranking.

I see Brent gave up on his opinion. What a pity.

[Brent Hutto]

Bob, If I could write like you, maybe, it would be understandable.

Surely it beats ranking.

I see Brent gave up on his opinion. What a pity.

My original reply was too off-topic and not in the proper spirit, sorry.

[cary lichtenstein]

Has the potential to be an interesting post is if was written for those of us who only graduated from the 6th grade ENGLISH. Please give it another go 

[Adam Clayman]

Cary, Here's the Cliff Notes. The shaping of the back left "swoosh" road hole bunker looks like shit. And it's reason for being that way is Bollocks. (I think that means bullshit?)

The rough on the right side of the green is stupid stupid stupid.

Hope that helps and encourages everyone else to offer their observations about the courses presentation. 

[Sean_A]

Adam


There is no question the rough on 17, down the right past the hotel, near the green and down the left is not clever.  That said, I have never seen so many guys trying to hit long left as today.  Even with the rough holding balls up, guys are afraid to take that shot on with a moderate left to right wind when the hole is behind TRHB.


Ciao   

[Kalen Braley]

My memory may be hazy, but wasn't an alternate "safe" way to play 17 was to go long past the bunker on your 2nd shot and then be left with a great angle and relatively simple shot back to the green, all the while effectively taking the road out of play??

[David_Tepper]

"My memory may be hazy, but wasn't an alternate "safe" way to play 17 was to go long past the bunker on your 2nd shot and then be left with a great angle and relatively simple shot back to the green, all the while effectively taking the road out of play??"

Kalen -

Your memory is correct. In redoing the Road Hole bunker, it looks like they have created a small ridge on the left side of the bunker to make the play you describe (missing the green long & left) a more difficult recovery.

That being said, I saw Jason Day earlier this morning miss long & left and then hit a lovely little pitch over that ridge close to the hole.

DT

[Ronald Montesano]

Adam, I completely understood your rant and I can't even spell Lichtenstein.


I haven't seen the telly tube, but I agree 102% with your position. That putted/bumped recovery should exist and if it does not, then the R&A is a mule.


Perhaps it is the association's attempt to counter Mike Davis with its own, celebrity set-up man. Surely a woman would not have conceived nor considered such a mohawk.

[Jon Wiggett]

Has the potential to be an interesting post is if was written for those of us who only graduated from the 6th grade ENGLISH. Please give it another go 

Cary,

post makes no sense, please give it another go

[Andrew Simpson]

Reading the thread as a point about 17.
I think the extra length was the first mistake, making the left drive, left 2nd for a one putt par safer than the direct line.
To me the rough short right should be long left (past the bunker), thus making the bale out tougher than the designed hole.
By all means shift the tee dependent on the wind/forecast but make the designed hole a better option than avoiding it!

[Adam Clayman]

Andrew, You're point about the added length is correct, especially since the teeing ground was initially out of bounds. That fact alone, at the time, illuminated even the dimmest of eyesights, that the powers that govern the decisions on the gca of TOC, might not be omnipotent.

I would argue on principle against adding rough long left on #17, but I would argue the same if it were proposed on any course, almost anywhere. It's a myth that rough makes it harder, especially for the pros. All it really does is stop the ball closer to the hole than it otherwise would be, but more importantly, it reduces the number of potential shot options, thereby removing any chance of creative shot making.

[Adam Clayman]

How about that strip of longer grass in front of Shell bunker? Core crap indeed.

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