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Buck Wolter

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US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« on: April 28, 2015, 03:34:43 PM »
Not an issue for me but if you were going to try to qualify which of these would you pick based on architecture/access? ie Harvester is a very nice course but you can play it any time.


http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/qualifying/index.html

These stood out to me:
Pete Dye Golf Club
CC of Detroit
Crumpin Fox Club
Floosmoor CC
Omaha CC

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BHoover

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2015, 04:41:32 PM »
I always wanted to play the U.S. Am qualifier at Camargo. Didn't care if I finished dead last and received a letter from the USGA asking me to please refrain from participating in their events ever again. Playing the practice round and the two tournament rounds at Camargo would be worth it.
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Buck Wolter

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2015, 06:00:31 PM »
Quote from: Brian Hoover on April 28, 2015, 04:41:32 PM
I always wanted to play the U.S. Am qualifier at Camargo. Didn't care if I finished dead last and received a letter from the USGA asking me to please refrain from participating in their events ever again. Playing the practice round and the two tournament rounds at Camargo would be worth it.
Still 29 spots available --Doesn't look like you're too far away from a 2.4 from my GHIN stalking

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https://champapps.usga.org/singlepages/ViewQualifyingSites/48
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Connor Dougherty

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2015, 06:03:56 PM »
Buck,
I almost opted to fly out to Pete Dye to play in that one but opted to stay in town and play in the qualifier at Eugene CC.

Brian,
That was the exact logic I had 2 years ago playing in the am qualifier at Camargo on my road trip. I legitimately have the index, but I had no illusions of actually qualifying for the event. That was until I found myself standing on the Biarritz green (the 8th) 4 under par, telling myself all that I had to do was go 4 over the next 28 holes and I had a shot. I finished that round with an even par 70, tied for 3rd in the qualifier (3 made the cut). That hour between the two rounds is something I'll never forget. I started the second round bogey double double double, crushing my brief hopes, but recollected to finish with a 78. I'm going back this summer, athough it's with a completely different outlook. Tom Cecil, the head pro there, was kind enough to talk with me extensively about the architecture, something I'll nevr forget. I can't wait to get back there.
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Buck Wolter

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2015, 06:13:00 PM »
I would think this will draw a lot of applications


2016 U.S. Amateur Four-Ball

May 21 - 25, 2016

Winged Foot Golf Club,
Mamaroneck, N.Y.


Apply to Play Week of May 4th, 2015

Informational PDF Week of May 4th, 2015

Entries Close 5:00 PM EDT August 5, 2015
 

Handicap Index Limit 5.4 Individual Handicap Limits

Age Limit No Limit

Qualifying Rounds August 17, 2015 - April 13, 2016
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Joel_Stewart

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2015, 06:24:52 PM »
Back in the 1970's qualifying for the California State Am you played at Olympic.  If you qualified you played Pebble Beach and Cypress Point in medal play.  Match play then went back to Pebble.  All for $25.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2015, 07:02:58 PM »
Both Southern Dunes courses on the list, good choices.
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DFarron

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2015, 07:33:24 PM »
Thought that CCD was full but I may be mistaken. Really good old school course in a beautiful surroundings. Pete Dye is great but if you are trying to advance can be brutal.. Flossmoor is an ehhh kind of course, not sure if it's worth the trip. Pete Dye is really hard to get to.

I get where you are coming from, I was too late to get into the US Senior Open qualifier at the Lake course at Olympic Club and Wilshire CC. I keep checking every day hoping someone will withdraw lol!
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2015, 08:34:23 PM »
Quote from: DFarron on April 28, 2015, 07:33:24 PM
Flossmoor is an ehhh kind of course, not sure if it's worth the trip.


You might want to duck.  The invective flies pretty fast around here.
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Terry Lavin

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2015, 08:46:01 PM »
Quote from: Sven Nilsen on April 28, 2015, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: DFarron on April 28, 2015, 07:33:24 PM
Flossmoor is an ehhh kind of course, not sure if it's worth the trip.


You might want to duck.  The invective flies pretty fast around here.

Flossmoor doesn't have a fake waterfall like some meh-not-so-notable Northern California non-top 500 modern courses, so I see where he's coming from.
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Jon Cavalier

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2015, 10:13:54 PM »
Quote from: Connor Dougherty on April 28, 2015, 06:03:56 PM

Brian,
That was the exact logic I had 2 years ago playing in the am qualifier at Camargo on my road trip. I legitimately have the index, but I had no illusions of actually qualifying for the event. That was until I found myself standing on the Biarritz green (the 8th) 4 under par, telling myself all that I had to do was go 4 over the next 28 holes and I had a shot. I finished that round with an even par 70, tied for 3rd in the qualifier (3 made the cut). That hour between the two rounds is something I'll never forget. I started the second round bogey double double double, crushing my brief hopes, but recollected to finish with a 78. I'm going back this summer, athough it's with a completely different outlook. Tom Cecil, the head pro there, was kind enough to talk with me extensively about the architecture, something I'll nevr forget. I can't wait to get back there.

Very, very cool. What a great highlight and amazing feeling that must have been!
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BShannon

Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2015, 12:25:38 PM »
Given the recent turmoil at Flossmoor, any goofball can now gain access with $100 and a polite phone call. Head east for Camargo.
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DFarron

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2015, 01:40:20 PM »
Quote from: Terry Lavin on April 28, 2015, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: Sven Nilsen on April 28, 2015, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: DFarron on April 28, 2015, 07:33:24 PM
Flossmoor is an ehhh kind of course, not sure if it's worth the trip.


You might want to duck.  The invective flies pretty fast around here.

Flossmoor doesn't have a fake waterfall like some meh-not-so-notable Northern California non-top 500 modern courses, so I see where he's coming from.

Wow....nice jab at our club lol. Please note that I have never said that anyone should fly in to play either courses at our club, it's just where I apply my trade. Have a good day :)
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Terry Lavin

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2015, 02:34:50 PM »
Hopefully you took it in the playful spirit intended!
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2015, 03:10:25 PM »
I've heard some pretty good things about the Creek Course up at Hammock Creek Club but the qualifier here in Vero Beach at Bent Pine is the same day, so I went with that. I did name Bear's Club my first choice with Old Oaks/Century as my second. Talk about contrast there!

Interestingly, it seems I'll have to travel farther to get to the nearest US Mid-Am qualifier (Dye Preserve) than I will if I manage to play my butt off and qualify for the event itself (John's Island). I know Vero Beach isn't huge, but I am surprised there isn't a Mid-Am qualifier in the same town as the event itself will be happening.
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Matt Frey, PGA

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2015, 05:18:11 PM »
Maketewah is a pretty fun design...a tad of cramped, but overall a strong Ross design.
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DFarron

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2015, 06:53:41 PM »
Quote from: Terry Lavin on April 29, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
Hopefully you took it in the playful spirit intended!

I did...if it makes you feel any better I think Olympia Fields and Medinah #3 are very ehhhh also.....
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Tim Leahy

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2015, 08:11:17 PM »
Stanford and Granite Bay are nice private clubs in NoCal with good GCA.
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Terry Lavin

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2015, 09:09:33 PM »
Quote from: DFarron on April 29, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Terry Lavin on April 29, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
Hopefully you took it in the playful spirit intended!

I did...if it makes you feel any better I think Olympia Fields and Medinah #3 are very ehhhh also.....

Not really. It just confirms an uninformed attitude. But thanks for playing!
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2015, 09:31:47 PM »
Going through the list, I counted 11 that I've played. Good luck to those playing Sewailo in Tucson if it's windy and Trump National Philadelphia in Pine Hill, NJ, just next to Pine Valley.
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Jeff Bergeron

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2015, 09:40:05 PM »
Clubs are asked by their local golf association to host a qualifier. It's a money loser for the Club and most do it for the 'good of the game'. Why is it a good idea to rip them on this forum?
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J_ Crisham

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2015, 12:38:46 PM »
Quote from: DFarron on April 29, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Terry Lavin on April 29, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
Hopefully you took it in the playful spirit intended!

I did...if it makes you feel any better I think Olympia Fields and Medinah #3 are very ehhhh also.....
Seriously? To suggest that Flossmoor, OFCC, and Medinah are ehhh kind of courses is absurd. Flossmoor is top 200 Classic on Golfweeks list every year and won best restoration a few years ago. Both Medinah and OFCC are perennially top 50 US on Golfweek Classic and top 100 GD. Both clubs have a second course that is damn good. Unless you are calling Shinny or Cypress Point home you shouldn't be throwing stones.
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DFarron

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2015, 01:01:02 PM »
Quote from: J_ Crisham on April 30, 2015, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: DFarron on April 29, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Terry Lavin on April 29, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
Hopefully you took it in the playful spirit intended!

I did...if it makes you feel any better I think Olympia Fields and Medinah #3 are very ehhhh also.....
Seriously? To suggest that Flossmoor, OFCC, and Medinah are ehhh kind of courses is absurd. Flossmoor is top 200 Classic on Golfweeks list every year and won best restoration a few years ago. Both Medinah and OFCC are perennially top 50 US on Golfweek Classic and top 100 GD. Both clubs have a second course that is damn good. Unless you are calling Shinny or Cypress Point home you shouldn't be throwing stones.

Geez I'm sorry, I thought this was America where I was free to express my opinion. In keeping to the discussion, the subject was courses that we were willing to travel a great distance to play because of easy access of a USGA qualifier. In my opinion Flossmoor, Olympia Fields and Medinah are not. Unless we are talking Butler, Chicago Golf or some place like that, in MY OPINION it's not worth it. If you are in town for business and have some spare time, maybe.....
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2015, 01:09:30 PM »
Quote from: DFarron on April 30, 2015, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: J_ Crisham on April 30, 2015, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: DFarron on April 29, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Terry Lavin on April 29, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
Hopefully you took it in the playful spirit intended!

I did...if it makes you feel any better I think Olympia Fields and Medinah #3 are very ehhhh also.....
Seriously? To suggest that Flossmoor, OFCC, and Medinah are ehhh kind of courses is absurd. Flossmoor is top 200 Classic on Golfweeks list every year and won best restoration a few years ago. Both Medinah and OFCC are perennially top 50 US on Golfweek Classic and top 100 GD. Both clubs have a second course that is damn good. Unless you are calling Shinny or Cypress Point home you shouldn't be throwing stones.

Geez I'm sorry, I thought this was America where I was free to express my opinion. In keeping to the discussion, the subject was courses that we were willing to travel a great distance to play because of easy access of a USGA qualifier. In my opinion Flossmoor, Olympia Fields and Medinah are not. Now if we are talking Butler, Chicago Golf or some place like that, in MY OPINION it's not worth it. If you are in town for business and have some spare time, maybe.....

Did you play the South at OFCC?

Its a sin if you show up to play the North and don't take the time to see its more interesting counterpart.
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John Connolly

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Re: US Open Local Qualifying Courses
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2015, 01:48:23 PM »
I'm so fascinated to learn there are courses that are above being disliked. Can we formulate a list of courses that are inappropriate to dislike so no one else gives OB opinions?
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