[MClutterbuck]

Really short grass around a sloped green is not only interesting, but the biggest equalizer between good and bad players. Bunkers are probably the opposite.

[jeffwarne]

Any place you can putt from is no "hazard".

Why can't just we accept that "short grass" is simply more fun than gouging the ball out of deep rough, and that it certainly puts less demands on an old virtue like "skill".  That's a good enough reason, I think, for golfers to like it and for architects to use it

[jeffwarne]

As far as short grass as a hazard, I agree to an extent. I feel like when the grass gets too short, the average player loses his ability to hit any sort of wedge and begins to putt every time. When the grass is so tight that is essentially takes the choice away, I think it loses it's luster sort of speak.

You and Peter are drinking my Kool-aid

I don't dislike short tight (often damp) grass "chipping areas".
I just think we're often kidding ourselves when we think it encourages more imaginative and creative "chipping"

[Grant Saunders]

Grant,
It would only be a hazard if it were marked.  Agree??

I guess if the rules of golf are to be used as the definition of a hazard then yes, it would only be a hazard if marked. If you are going to be a bit more relaxed as far as "official" terminology then I believe that long grass, trees, out of bounds and short grass all count as hazards in that they create a situation where you can be penalised.

Imagine though, a short grass area defined and marked as a hazard. Not being able to ground your club or take practice swings would add another dimension again. Although a bit of a gimmick, it would be interesting to see it used and how it affected peoples ability to play the shots.

[Mike_Young]

I think we have to allow the rules of golf to define hazard.  Personally I have no problem being more relaxed in terminology but I would still define long grass, trees, OB, and short grass as elements or features of a golf course which can add to the difficulty.    And yes, a short grass hazard played by the rules of golf would be interesting....
BTW....I wasn't questioning you as much as the thread asked about short grass as a hazard and I'm not sure it was meant that way.

[Thomas Dai]

If the grass on the bank had been shorter, Rory's tee shot on the 72nd at Valhalla would probably have gone into the water.
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