Nothing new here. Fazio told us that he didn't care about the old-time architects at a retreat at Pinehurst in 2003. I bet you can still find threads that talk about this....
He said pretty much the same thing at Brad's event at Pinehurst last fall.
He said pretty much the same thing in his book published several years ago. If nothing else, the man is consistent.
Bob
Really? Can you please refer me to the page (s) where he said this (that "he didn't care about the old-time architects")? He does say that "... we never want to get away from the old tenets of course design, but we're dealing with entirely different capabilities than the 'classic' architects were." (page 77). In fact, he is referring to the 100 years of learning- developing the craft, the science- with emphasis on technology and equipment which aid the designer and builder. He also notes the change in client and consumer expectations as golf became mainstream and more money was made available to meet these.
I suspect that when most us go to the doctor with a complication, we prefer to take advantage of all the learning, advances, new therapies and procedures gained over the last 100 years to a good-old bleeding. I know that when it comes to golf, contrary to protestations on the DG about how technology is ruining the game, my fellow GCAers utilize the newest clubs and balls with very few exceptions. Like most of us, Fazio plays the cards he is dealt with, perhaps, "honest arrogance", though the couple of times I've been around him he comes across as being rather humble.
Nothing new here. Fazio told us that he didn't care about the old-time architects at a retreat at Pinehurst in 2003. I bet you can still find threads that talk about this....
He said pretty much the same thing at Brad's event at Pinehurst last fall.
TF can hand out as many back handed swipes against whomever as he wants, but can he do better?
In my own field Frank Lloyd Wright thought the history of Architecture was bunk. ... but he delivered!
If my math is right, Fazio has 15 courses in GD's U.S. Top 100 list. Only one other designer is in double figures (Dye, 10.5). Of the ODGs, only Tillie and Ross have more than a handful (eight each). I get it, what does GD know, right?
In my book, Fazio has "delivered" in spades. His positions should not be mischaracterized because one disagrees with his style.
I wonder what the reaction to the picture of the proposed #10 would have been if Hanse or Coore had been awarded the MPCC renovation. What is the objection to recapturing what appears to have been lost green surface on both sides and reshaping the bunkers to meld with the surrounding dunes? With the Pacific as background, the existing hole with those very ordinary bunkers seems deserving of much more. It would be interesting if Gil and Bill would be so bold as to post their vision for #10 here. Since they wouldn't, maybe Fazio critic Gib Papazian would take a shot at it.