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Jordan Standefer

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http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/davis-wont-rule-out-composite-2021-us-open-torrey/

It seems to me Davis doesn't think it'll happen, but is leaving the possibility open just in case.  Considering the courses don't intertwine, some creative routing would be in order.

Number 2 on the North course is close to the South and could be setup as a driveable par-4.

Interesting, if nothing else.

Tim Leahy

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2014, 08:15:03 PM »
I dont see how that could work since the South course doesnt come in to the clubhouse after nine.
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jeffwarne

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 08:24:20 PM »
"#2 on the North could be set up as a driveable par 4" ::) ::) ::)

By 2021 all the par 4's will be driveable
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Alex Miller

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 08:39:44 PM »
I dont see how that could work since the South course doesnt come in to the clubhouse after nine.

You're not thinking creatively enough!

1-3 North, 1-6 South OUT
7-10 South, 14-18 South IN

There are other combos too that could be more or less enticing depending on work that is done to both courses in the meantime.

Jordan Standefer

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 08:45:30 PM »
I dont see how that could work since the South course doesnt come in to the clubhouse after nine.

You're not thinking creatively enough!

1-3 North, 1-6 South OUT
7-10 South, 14-18 South IN

There are other combos too that could be more or less enticing depending on work that is done to both courses in the meantime.

I was thinking 1-4 on the South, 2-3-1 on the North, then 5 and 6 back on the South.  That would be a walkable front nine and keep par at 35 or 36.

Matthew Rose

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 09:02:31 PM »
1-8 and 18 south also makes a returning nine hole loop. Otherwise, it looks like you can pull 11-12-13 from the south out and add three North holes somewhere.

I think the North is actually a more interesting layout, so I'd love to see them attempt something like this.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 03:05:23 PM »
11 thru 13 on the South are better holes than the holes mentioned on the North. Makes no sense.


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Emile Bonfiglio

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 04:32:47 PM »
They will use the 2 holes near the clubhouse from the north course for practice range...that is as close to a composite as I bet you will see.
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Alex Miller

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 04:46:44 PM »
11 thru 13 on the South are better holes than the holes mentioned on the North. Makes no sense.




1-3 North have the potential to be pretty darn awesome IF the work done is good. I'm not a huge fan of 11 South, personally.

Matthew Petersen

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 08:28:00 PM »
11 thru 13 on the South are better holes than the holes mentioned on the North. Makes no sense.




Yeah, that's the problem with a composite. 11-14 South are good holes. It's 8-10 that could be lost without complaint from me.

jeffwarne

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 08:43:49 PM »
17,000 courses in the US to choose from
a highly successful Championship on The South in '08

and they need to consider a composite???

Seems to me it's another chance for someone other than the course to be the story...
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Brian Colbert

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 09:25:29 PM »
The composite course I would like to see them use is all 18 at LACC North

Mark McKeever

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2014, 10:05:35 AM »
The composite course I would like to see them use is all 18 at LACC North

Well played Brian, LACC would be an incredible venue...

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Jason Topp

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2014, 02:52:11 PM »
Could they creat an 18 hole course that consists of cliffside holes?  Would it be a better course?

Pete Lavallee

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2014, 08:11:37 PM »
The original course atTorrey consisted of 1-3 North and the rest of South minus 11-13. So that routing would work, not changing par. The only advantage to that would be to introduce a driveable par 4, the 2cnd of the North. From everything Phil has said the styles will be very dissimilar. Will the greens have gone to poa annua in just 5 years? They will eventually, but one would suspect they would wish to hang on to the bent grass for as long as possible.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2014, 08:34:55 PM »
12 and 13 could be the best two holes on both courses. Dont see it happening.
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Jordan Standefer

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Re: USGA 'won't rule out' composite course at Torrey Pines in '21
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2014, 08:57:51 PM »
From everything Phil has said the styles will be very dissimilar.

This is probably the biggest reason why I don't see it happening.  Phil has stated that he wants to make some fundamental changes to the North in contrast to the South.

I thought the inclusion of #2 on the North would be intriguing, as driveable par 4s are always entertaining, especially at tough tournament setups.  The USGA set up #14 on the South at the very forward tees (277 yards) for at least one round during the 2008 US Open, if I recall.

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