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Garland Bayley

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Re: Opens at Pinehurst to be set up the same
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2014, 03:08:40 PM »
It's going to be a fantastic event for the men.  However, it could be a disaster for the women.  The course and fan areas could get torn up pretty good.  It could rain hard leaving a muddy course and little time to get it in shape.  Also, attendance could fall very low if people leave after the mens event. 

If they spaced it out, it could be fine but that would not be possible at Pinehurst.  Good luck to the USGA.

There's mud in the Pinehurst sandhills?
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Opens at Pinehurst to be set up the same
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2014, 03:10:49 PM »


With respect, the number that they print six months before a championship is not always the number they wind up at during the championship.  Remember when they said Sebonack would be at 13?

I doubt that they will change their intended green speed for the U.S. Open just because there is another event the next week, but it's not such a bad thing that they will have to keep the grass alive, is it?  Then again, they are converting the greens to bermuda immediately after the Women's Open, so maybe they don't care if the greens are dead by the end of the second week.


The linked article says they will be softening the greens for the women the second week. Which, I suppose means it doesn't matter as much that the women don't hit a 6 iron as high as the men.
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BHoover

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Re: Opens at Pinehurst to be set up the same
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2014, 03:34:41 PM »
It's a shame that you don't care about the success of the USGA's two biggest tournaments. You sound like quite a booster for our great game. ::)

I care more about playing the game myself than what the USGA does for its professional championships.  If it's a shame that I am more concerned about my own game than the USGA, then so be it.

Jeremy Rudock

Re: Opens at Pinehurst to be set up the same
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2014, 03:40:21 PM »
The whole thing seems more like a big publicity stunt put on by the USGA. Same course in back-to-back weeks has a great chance to be a disaster.

They are trying to figure out how it's going to work for the Olympics.

As to set-up, I like the general idea, but I wish they had the balls to do what I suggested for the Olympics ... have the men play it from the women's yardage one day, and have the women play it from the men's yardage one day.  That would be a real education!  My guess is that the women would really struggle from 7300-whatever but that the men wouldn't go nearly as low from 6400 as most people expect.  But if they did, so what?  They're all playing the same course.




With all due respect, the men would annihilate a 6400 yard course.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Opens at Pinehurst to be set up the same
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2014, 05:03:52 PM »

With all due respect, the men would annihilate a 6400 yard course.

Maybe.  What's your definition of annihilate?  They're going to shoot in the 50's?  With those greens, and U.S. Open firmness??

And even if they did, wouldn't that make a hell of a Saturday at the U.S. Open?

Jason Thurman

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Re: Opens at Pinehurst to be set up the same
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2014, 09:46:47 AM »
And even if they did, wouldn't that make a hell of a Saturday at the U.S. Open?



I'd be cool with one tournament a year from 6400 yards, especially on a course with short game options as dicey as No. 2's. But in a US Open? No thanks. I get that everyone's playing the same course and that par just becomes a little less relevant, but the success of the US Open hinges on Tiger being in contention and scores being ugly.

And sure they'd annihilate it. I suspect your home course is at least as difficult as No. 2 from the same length. You know more than I do about what visiting pros have shot, but I always hear that they take it pretty low. Is that incorrect?

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Lou_Duran

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Re: Opens at Pinehurst to be set up the same
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2014, 10:12:51 AM »
I'm a lawyer, I don't have to own my statements.  I get to play with language for a living.  

So I was speculating.  Big deal.  .......  If it does (works), then great.  If it doesn't, I don't care.  

I don't think we'll even notice how the course is set up because we won't get to watch any actual golf in between all the commercials during the boradcast.

Probably written in jest, but how refreshingly honest!  Modify a few words in the last sentence, and it describes our political situation to a tee.

RE: #2, firm up the greens and groom them to 13' and the scores will be well above par.  If the wind blows (probably not) and the fairways are firm to the point where the drives roll into the scruff, it will be a death march.  With bent in mid-June and the women coming right behind, my guess is that the setup won't be that severe.  I will be watching the women for the first time.  If they don't get softer, slower green complexes, it won't be pretty.  

Howard Riefs

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