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Matthew Lloyd

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College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« on: October 29, 2013, 04:55:55 PM »
For those of you anxious for the college football playoff to replace the BCS next year, please weigh in with your picks for a 4 course college golf playoff.  My picks would be:

Yale
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Washington State

I'm always trying to compile a complete list of must play college courses for football road trips.


Andrew Buck

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 05:24:20 PM »
While I don't have a lot to add, this post did lead me to the following link on the Stanford Golf Course website with aerials and George C Thomas's architecture guidelines. 

I'd say a number of the holes could benefit from some bunker and green restoration and tree removal. 

http://golfcourse.stanford.edu/aerials.htm

Philip Caccamise

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 06:08:10 PM »
For those of you anxious for the college football playoff to replace the BCS next year, please weigh in with your picks for a 4 course college golf playoff.  My picks would be:

Yale
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Washington State

I'm always trying to compile a complete list of must play college courses for football road trips.



Instead of a top 4 college owned courses, because I think we all agree Yale wins pretty handily, how about a top 4 "where the golf team plays" or hosts a tournament? Example, UCLA = Riviera.

John McCarthy

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 06:09:59 PM »
Can I then request that the University of Illinois' golf courses be given a SMU-style death penalty?
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Garland Bayley

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2013, 06:52:00 PM »
Why on earth would you pick Washington State?  :o
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Pete_Pittock

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2013, 06:57:49 PM »
Oklahoma State (Karsten Creek) and Kansas State (Colbert Hills) would probably outrank Washington State. I haven't played any of them.

Rees Milikin

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2013, 07:50:32 PM »
Instead of a top 4 college owned courses, because I think we all agree Yale wins pretty handily, how about a top 4 "where the golf team plays" or hosts a tournament? Example, UCLA = Riviera.

College Teams host tournaments all over the place, so maybe the criteria should be where they conduct their practices or the school actually owns.

USC-Aiken having Palmetto Golf Club as their home course is pretty solid

RJ_Daley

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 08:48:25 PM »
What?  Did Texas Tech Rawls course fade from memory? Unfortunately, I didn't play it.  Any thoughts on how good it is compared to some of those named, if you've played them?  What is Georgia Tech's home course?

I'd add another challenge to this thread.... what High School has the best home course?  ;D
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Garland Bayley

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 10:09:45 PM »
What?  Did Texas Tech Rawls course fade from memory? Unfortunately, I didn't play it.  Any thoughts on how good it is compared to some of those named, if you've played them?  What is Georgia Tech's home course?

I'd add another challenge to this thread.... what High School has the best home course?  ;D

Bandon, OR DUH!
;)
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Chris DeToro

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 10:50:08 AM »
I don't necessarily agree that Yale wins this one hands down...

The C/C Warren course at ND is a great course.  My only wish is that it didn't get so crowded, but it is a wonderful course in an otherwise light South Bend public course market.  I actually find this to be one of the more underrated courses overall too

It's been years since I played the Rawls course and it was actually my first experience with a Tom Doak course.  I thought it was great as well

Indiana University's GC is a shame.  That course has a lot of potential and for a university of our size and location, we should have a much better golf course.  The fact that Purdue's Kampen course absolutely crushes IU's is a travesty


JLahrman

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 11:29:07 AM »
Indiana University's GC is a shame.  That course has a lot of potential and for a university of our size and location, we should have a much better golf course.  The fact that Purdue's Kampen course absolutely crushes IU's is a travesty

That may be true (I haven't played Kampen), but what are the greens fees at Kampen? When I was at Indiana ten years ago, I think it was $12 to play the IU course. Just checked the website, it looks like it's $15 to walk during the week and $20 on weekends. The course could be better, but I don't know that the university or the residents would be crazy about upgrading the course if it would mean substantially higher greens fees. And I don't know that the university would have much to gain by investing a lot of money in the course.
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JLahrman

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 11:31:00 AM »
For those of you anxious for the college football playoff to replace the BCS next year, please weigh in with your picks for a 4 course college golf playoff.  My picks would be:

Yale
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Washington State

Much the same as college football itself, a 4-course playoff is unlikely to allow enough contenders into the mix or satisfy the public. Look for the college course playoff to expand to 16 courses, and look for the college football playoff to eventually do the same.

Chris DeToro

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2013, 11:51:45 AM »
Indiana University's GC is a shame.  That course has a lot of potential and for a university of our size and location, we should have a much better golf course.  The fact that Purdue's Kampen course absolutely crushes IU's is a travesty

That may be true (I haven't played Kampen), but what are the greens fees at Kampen? When I was at Indiana ten years ago, I think it was $12 to play the IU course. Just checked the website, it looks like it's $15 to walk during the week and $20 on weekends. The course could be better, but I don't know that the university or the residents would be crazy about upgrading the course if it would mean substantially higher greens fees. And I don't know that the university would have much to gain by investing a lot of money in the course.

The fees at Kampen are much higher plus they get football season traffic from alums, which as a fellow IU alum, we know that no one really travels there for football season...

ND has modest fees, though, it can be a bit of a parking lot because it draws a lot of local play

JLahrman

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2013, 12:01:51 PM »
The fees at Kampen are much higher plus they get football season traffic from alums, which as a fellow IU alum, we know that no one really travels there for football season...

ND has modest fees, though, it can be a bit of a parking lot because it draws a lot of local play

I think this year will test the willingness of Purdue alumni to travel to watch football games. PU is certainly P-U this year.

But anyway, as I mentioned, IU's course could use a makeover. There are certainly some good holes and some that could be improved pretty easily if the money were there - especially if they were going to clear out some trees. But I wouldn't look to the university to shell out a bunch of money to improve the course if it meant the fees were going to double. I don't think the locals or the students would be all that crazy about it and I don't think I would disagree with them.

Chris DeToro

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 12:47:28 PM »
How could I forget the U of M course??!!

That definitely is in the BCS picture

Ronald Montesano

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2013, 08:59:04 PM »
I would put Taconic (Williams) Orchards (Mount Holyoke) and Seven Oaks (Colgate) up against the three, non-CT courses on the original list.
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Brent Carlson

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2013, 09:17:18 PM »

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How could I forget the U of M course??!!

That definitely is in the BCS picture


+1.  Very fun course.  Anybody hear if the restoration is going forward?  It was supposed to start this fall.

Chris DeToro

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2013, 08:27:22 AM »

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How could I forget the U of M course??!!

That definitely is in the BCS picture


+1.  Very fun course.  Anybody hear if the restoration is going forward?  It was supposed to start this fall.

I hadn't heard about this.  I know they did some massive work a few years ago, but I wasn't aware of any further work

Matthew Sander

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2013, 08:44:24 AM »
Chris,

An added bonus,  it will be Mike Devries doing the work.

Chris DeToro

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2013, 08:47:33 AM »
Oh wow, any more info on this?  What's he going to be working on? 

Matthew Sander

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2013, 08:49:40 AM »
Oh wow, any more info on this?  What's he going to be working on? 


It has been talked about here, but I can't quite recall the details or scope. I think there is a UM course thread that has some discussion of this near the end.

Matthew Sander

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Re: College Golf Course -- Playoff Format
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2013, 08:53:25 AM »
Here you go Chris - http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,34505.0.html.

It is a really good thread and the new work s discussed over the last 4-5 pages.

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