[Patrick_Mucci]

Patrick,

a history of people dying by plunging over them in riding vehicles

Wasn't this anecdote proven to be an urban myth the last time you wheeled it out?

NO

Unless you think that Bob Huntley was lying when he posted this about six years ago.

[Paul Jones]

Thank You Pat.  Looking forward to it.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Thank You Pat.  Looking forward to it.

Already sent

[John Percival]

So, we are re-inventing the maintenance industry because three guys couldn't play their round in 2:30? And, created a potentially awkward situation for their fourth player (who reacted better than most to their boorish 'introduction'). Hey guys, the dude just plunked down 5 C's and you're telling him what's what? What a bunch of tools.
And dont lay out that 'we paid good money for a tee time and should get what we want.' NO. We pay money for access and use within some bounds of a norm.

Life is about levels of protocol. And golf probably has more protocol than any other sport. Remember, even when we play a public venue, we are guests. Act accordingly. And if you can't act in a socially acceptable manner, your little twitch clan should build your own racetrack, er, golf club or stay home and play Dungeons and Dragons while eating Red Bull snow cones.

Boys, a little less twitch and a lot more appreciation for life's moments.

[Patrick_Mucci]

So, we are re-inventing the maintenance industry because three guys couldn't play their round in 2:30?

It's called "common sense" John, obviously something you're lacking.

If PB can't accommodate golfers who play at a brisk pace they should defer their first tee time in order to allow maintenance sufficient time to complete their morning task.  Instead of starting at 6:40, they should start at 7:30.
But, they're greedy and want $ 2,000 per foursome for six more foursomes, or an extra $ 12,000.
If I pay $ 535, why should I be forced to play at a snail's pace of 4:30 ?  

And, created a potentially awkward situation for their fourth player (who reacted better than most to their boorish 'introduction'). Hey guys, the dude just plunked down 5 C's and you're telling him what's what?

Our fourth enjoyed the company and the pace of play.
As the first tee time of the day, we set the pace of play and it wasn't 4:30.
If the first group plays in 4:30, NO succeeding group can play faster.
If you knew anything about playing Pebble Beach, which you obviously don't, we did every group that followed us a favor.
Had we played in 4:30, we would have done a disservice to every group that followed us.
We made every group who followed us's day more enjoyable.
Had we played in 4:30, we would have ruined most rounds for those who followed us.
But you're obviously incapable of understanding the dynamic that exists at PB.
As the day goes by, rounds devolve into rounds taking 6:30 and more, meaning that many who paid $ 535 can't finish their round.
How considerate or fair is that ?

What a bunch of tools.

I guarantee you that the three of us are far better company on and off the golf course than you.
And, I'll guarantee you that each of the three of us is more intelligent than you.
As to being a "tool", I think you'll win that competition.


And dont lay out that 'we paid good money for a tee time and should get what we want.' NO. We pay money for access and use within some bounds of a norm.

NO, that's not what we pay money for.
We pay money for a product.
And that product is the play of a golf course at a brisk pace when you're the first group to tee off.

Life is about levels of protocol. And golf probably has more protocol than any other sport. Remember, even when we play a public venue, we are guests.

NO, we're not guests.
We're paying customers who have contracted for an enjoyable round of golf, not a round at a snail's pace.
And, we didn't pay $ 35 for the product, we paid $ 535, hence, it should be a product of the highest quality..

Act accordingly. And if you can't act in a socially acceptable manner, your little twitch clan should build your own racetrack, er, golf club or stay home and play Dungeons and Dragons while eating Red Bull snow cones.

We don't need a douche bag nobody to tell us how to act or play golf.
All of us get more invites in a week than you get in a year.
As the first group of the day we have an obligation to all of the other golfers who will play Pebble Beach that day to play at a brisk pace, without being slowed down

Boys, a little less twitch and a lot more appreciation for life's moments.

When it comes to appreciating "life's moment's" by comparison, you're a rank amateur in that category.

[John Percival]

Man, what a foot stomper.
So, when you eat at a fine restaurant, is the chef on a clock?
Wanna edit out 10 minutes from Casablanca?
Hey, here's a tip, start at the top of the Guggenheim. You can run down the spiral MUCH faster than walking up.

Stand by my previous post...tools.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Man, what a foot stomper.
So, when you eat at a fine restaurant, is the chef on a clock?

If the restaurant is in the theatre district and I have to catch a show, absolutely.

But what you don't get is that my "taking my time" doesn't ruin the dining experience for the other patrons, but when you play slow and complete the first round of the day in 4:30 or more, you ruin it for succeeding groups since no one, for the rest of the day can play faster than your time.

That's why rounds at Pebble Beach devolve into 6:30 hour rounds, which, in addition to being excruciating, also result in golfers not being able to play all 18 holes.   Only a moron like you doesn't understand that.

Secondly, we could care less about the bunkers being raked, which was he primary task being performed by maintainance.

Wanna edit out 10 minutes from Casablanca?

Isn't that what your suggesting, that as the first group we slow down and ruin it for the golfers who follow us ?
So much so that they can't complete their round or see the last 30 minutes of "Casablanca"

You're the tool

Hey, here's a tip, start at the top of the Guggenheim. You can run down the spiral MUCH faster than walking up.
Another moronic and totally irrelevant analogy.

Stand by my previous post...

Of course you would because you don't have a clue.
Have you ever played pebble Beach ?

tools.

You're a joke

[Greg Tallman]

Pat, You continue to reference being "forced to play at a 4:30 pace". What was the exact instruction/woriding at the first tee?

[Patrick_Mucci]

Pat, You continue to reference being "forced to play at a 4:30 pace". What was the exact instruction/woriding at the first tee?

Greg,

Prior to arriving at the first tee, on the range, the balls are imprinted with "4:30"

When you pay at the desk in the Pro Shop you're told that they expect play to be at 4:30.

Then, on the first tee, a nice fellow, Leonard, lectured us on the importance of playing in 4:30.

If the FIRST group of the day plays in 4:30, no succeeding group can play faster.

Imagine your group, paying $ 2,140 and teeing off at 2:45, and not being able to finish your round due to darkness because your round was going to take 6:30 because the first group of the day played in 4:30, and it went downhill from there.

If you only got to play 14 or 15 holes due to the snail's pace, would you ask for a refund ?

[noonan]

JMO - when the 1st tee time is booked - unless otherwise stipulated the 1st group should be able to play as fast as they wish

[ChipRoyce]

....we'll be at least 30 minutes ahead of the group behind us, and after we play the hole and the green staff are over the hill and moving towards the 8th green, if I bring along some Irn Bru, a half pint of vodka, some scented candles and the Great Hits of the Bay City Rollers on my I Phone, I might just get lucky, with only a few seals and grey whales for company>>>

Just found this thread - hate being late to the party, but @RichGoodale - thank you for that comment - its priceless!

Can only imagine the triple take of someone rich guy taking his coffee on a veranda overlooking the course to see a couple doing it in a golf cart before 7am

[Gary Slatter]

 
Pat, I loved your ballad of Pebble Beach!  
I hear it way too often, "Slow them down, they're catching the maintenance crew".
It's the "new rules" on this side of the pond, and no one wants to annoy the maintenance staff.  In the old days we tried to start two balls first to get the speed up for the day, now we have to get a four ball off first, also to set the speed, slower of course.

Rich, enjoy your round!

[Scott Warren]

Pat,

We don't need a douche bag nobody to tell us how to act or play golf.
All of us get more invites in a week than you get in a year.

You need - for your own sake and for ours - to take a little break from GCA. This is crazy.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Scott Warren,

My response to John Percival was appropriate given his complete lack of knowledge concerning the parties involved and his statements.

Rather than asking me to take a break you should be asking him how many times he's played Pebble Beach and how long each round took, if he has played Pebble Beach.

[Joel Zuckerman]

I've survived five heart procedures and Stage IV cancer, hence I don't need some has been PGA Pro to tell me about reality and perspective.

At the risk of being drenched in an acid bath, I will chime in for the first (and likely only) time on a Mucci Thread.

It seems to me a guy with your health history would be conscious of both your GCA legacy and your legacy in general. When the inevitable "RIP Thread" commences for a prominent poster such as yourself (and let's hope it's decades away) why insure the rememberances and anecdotes are tinged with an aura of controversy and/or negativity?  You are by all accounts a fine player, well-connected to the extreme, successful, erudite on the subject of GCA.  So why sully everything by regularly using terms like "moron," douchebag," "tool," "uninformed," et al?

This "slow play" directive is an interesting topic, and you make valid points, but I'm reminded of the climactic scene in the 1992 Billy Crystal comedy/drama "Mr. Saturday Night," when the domineering title character informs his agent-brother how lucky he's been to have been in his presence through the arc of his career. "Yeah," replies the brother, walking away. "But you could have been nicer."

[Scott Warren]

Patrick,

That you honestly believe that was appropriate reinforces it - you need to have a rest from this place.

Being "right" doesn't justify it.

You've too much good to contribute here to continue on carrying on the way you increasingly (and more severely) are.

Please, for your own sake, take a month. I'll bet you feel better without the 24/7 aggro

[Patrick_Mucci]

Scott,

Why didn't you object to John Percival's nasty characterizations of three people he doesn't know.

And, exempting myself,...... two rock solid terrific guys.

[Scott Warren]

Pat,

John Percival isn't my concern. The past 10 pages worth of threads aren't full of John Percival losing his rag left, right and centre. Whether his post was fair is immaterial.

Step away from the keyboard for a few weeks. You'll surprise yourself - and I bet you'll be glad you did it.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Pat,

John Percival isn't my concern. The past 10 pages worth of threads aren't full of John Percival losing his rag left, right and centre.
Whether his post was fair is immaterial.

Scott,

I think you have to review the last ten pages and see who the antagonists were.

Have you seen the Movie "Michael" ?

Step away from the keyboard for a few weeks. You'll surprise yourself - and I bet you'll be glad you did it.

It wouldn't change my life one way or the other, although, I'd certainly have more time for other pursuits.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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