Jeff - that particular shot by Creamer got some discussion in one of the Sebonack threads. Also, on Friday Stacy Lewis took so long I actually backed up the dvr and timed it. Par five 15th hole, third shot from 86 yards. She took 90 seconds of discussion with her caddy, and then changed clubs, and ended up taking over 2 minutes for an 86 yard shot. A friend of mine had an interesting question - why have caddies? Carry your own bag, make up your own mind! Not going to happen, but I do like your idea of banning caddies.