[Russell Lo]

Finishing up a meeting pn Saturday, March 9 at the Sky Harbor Marriott in Phoenix and was thinking about catching 9 holes (or more) at Papago. However, reading up on recent discussions, I'm not too sure about this option.

Any suggestions for nearby, not too expensive golf, taking into account the time of play and possible inability to finish 18.

Thanks

[Dave Givnish]

Legacy, ASU Karsten, and Papago are the closest public courses to Sky Harbor. Talking Stick isn't that far if you have a car. Phoenix CC is pretty close as well in case you can get access.

[Russell Lo]

Thanks Dave, I will have a car. Is Papago for $18 after 3pm the call or should I consider Karsten or TSN?

Thanks

[Matthew Petersen]

Russell,

I really like ASU Karsten, but Papago (post-reno) is better, and very much likely to be cheaper than ASU (and significantly cheaper than) Talking Stick. You're very close from the Marriott as well.

[Brent Hutto]

Tom Yost and I played at Papago about 10 days ago and I thought it was a fun course in good condition. We teed off at 2:15pm and had to play the entire 18th hole in darkness. Twiilight on 16 green and 17 then darkness on 18. We finished our round just before 7:00pm.

By March 9 you're probably looking at 15+ minutes more evening light so you'd probably need to play in just over 4 hours which is going to be tough if it's a busy Saturday. So a full round seems questionable.

Nine holes or better yet nine holes and as far into the back nine as possible would be nice. IMO the 17th is the best Par 3 of the course and the 18th is a nice finisher so it's a pity if you don't get to play those. But the course is quite solid from start to finish IMO.

[Tom Yost]

... was thinking about catching 9 holes (or more) at Papago. However, reading up on recent discussions, I'm not too sure about this option.

Not sure what you read that would dissuade you from visiting Papago?

A wonderful lay-of-the-land course on a property with a nice amount of natural movement.  The late afternoon light produces some remarkable shadows and highlights on the nearby sandstone buttes.  Recommended, even if for only 9 holes.

[Russell Lo]

Thanks for the input. Looking forward to it.

[Jeff Shelman]

While I haven't played there in several years, Vistal is another option that is pretty close to the airport.

It's not bad at all and quite wallet-friendly.

[Mark Smolens]

+1 on Jeff's recommendation for Vistal. They don't overseed so it's very, very firm and fast, dirt cheap, and no forced carries when I take my Mom there (at 79 she doesn't carry the ball too far with her driver). . . but you obviously can't go wrong with Papago.

[Jason Topp]

One additional reason to go to Papago is the range (assuming they did not move it in the renovation).  I used to love hitting balls with those red rocks as background.  One reason potentially not to go would be pace of play (although that may have improved because of the renovation and resulting price increases).

[Brent Hutto]

Judging from our Friday afternoon experience week before last at Papago they are not suffering for business post-shakeup. Now admittedly it was the week before Spring Training was to start and the PGA Tour was up north of town and it was just generally a happenin' time in the Phoenix area. But that Friday they were booked solid with mostly foursomes all the way untli our 2:15 tee time. Pace of play was actually tolerable on the back nine (presumably a group or two up ahead dropped out or something) but the front nine was a solid 2-1/2 hours or a couple minutes more.

They do still have the driving range, BTW. It was full-up too. As were the putting and chipping greens. So the new regime is not lacking for customers at the moment at least.

[Steve_ Shaffer]

I endorse Papago, not only for its proximity to the airport but its proximity to Honey Bears BBQ:

http://www.honeybearsbbq.com/

[Matthew Petersen]

I endorse Papago, not only for its proximity to the airport but its proximity to Honey Bears BBQ:

http://www.honeybearsbbq.com/

Preach it, brother Steve

[Joey Chase]

I played Papago on a recent trip to visit family in AZ, it was the first time post renovation.  I enjoy the golf course and the conditions were good.  One thing I like about golf in AZ is you pay for what you get, relatively speaking.  Papago is good value to me.

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