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Josh Tarble

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2013, 12:06:05 AM »
David, thanks for posting that link. The course does look really cool. It looks like a great place to be a member, tons and tons of fun shots.

Nigel Islam

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2013, 01:08:31 AM »
12th at Sultan's Run

Kevin_Reilly

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2013, 01:11:55 AM »
12th at Tilden Park, high above Berkeley, CA.
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Doug Siebert

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2013, 01:17:11 AM »
Indeed, the whole point of my traveling to see so many courses was my belief that if a course had even one outstanding and memorable hole, it was worth seeing. 


Tom,

How much weight would you give one absolutely outstanding hole when ranking a course using your scale?  If for instance you took a Doak 0 course and were able to magically replace one of its holes with a hole you considered one of the top 50 holes you've ever seen, how would that course then rank?

Personally, if I had a choice between playing one interesting but nothing to write home about course (say a Doak 6) with no outstanding but no bad holes, and playing another course that has no redeeming qualities whatsoever for 17 holes but had one hole considered to be in the world's top 50, I'd choose the latter course.  Repeatedly.
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Brian Hilko

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2013, 01:25:35 AM »
15 at Harrison Hills.
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Sean_A

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2013, 02:14:54 AM »
Not sure whose rankings are used to determine unranked, so I'll play it safe - the 18th at Kington.

Tucky

Kington is ranked!

http://www.top100golfcourses.co.uk/htmlsite/area.asp?id=199

A lot of the courses mentioned are ranked somewhere.  This board has top 100 world/US itis.

The one I would go with today is Painswick's 6th.


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Kyle Henderson

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2013, 02:16:25 AM »
17th at Clear Creek Tahoe.
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2013, 04:02:08 AM »
http://www.westmidlandsgolfclub.co.uk/Thegolf%20course.htm

I think the 4th hole here offers something new, whereas the picture shows there 18th is a rip off.

I've played it twice and both times I stood on the tee with a big grin on my face.
The 4th is a short drop shot par 3, and mostly these are very ho hum even with as big a fall as this one.  But the green here  is a sort of saddle back offering 3 main areas for pin positions.

The green is set at an angle and the central strip is just wide enough to pin, but very hard to keep the ball on.

The nearer side slopes gently toward you and is receptive, this is the 'easy' pin side and I doubt it gets that much use, but on a windy site it would be fine.

The far side starts with a steep, upinnable, slope and is much lower. The green then continues to run away from you.  So you have two options.  Either fly it past the steepest slope (the one thing you don’t want is a ball landing on the steep bit and kicking forward) and face a long putt back, this is the conservative way to play it. Or try and land one just short of the top of the slope and hope for the ball to run down and past the pin, leaving a shorter uphill putt back. Either way there’s no easy way to get close, but it’s a lot of fun trying. I only wish it came later in the round where match play could put more pressure on how much risk you took on.
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Mark Pearce

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2013, 04:43:08 AM »
Almost every course is ranked somewhere.

18 at Kington is a great shout.  If I'm not allowed that then 7 at Brampton.  But I'm sure someone will find Brampton ranked somewhere.
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Scott Sander

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2013, 04:47:55 AM »
#3 at Murphy Creek - off the tee a bunker in the center of the fairway offers, essentially, 4 choices - are you going to take the high or low road and are you going to try to make it a 2 or 3 shot hole. Second shot is even better, with bunkering and land movement complicating the 'safe' routes.  Cherry on top is a spur of fairway that stabs out well right of everything else offering the only completely unencumbered look at the hole.  The spur is very usable and reachable, but it's so far away from the line that your eye wants to take you that it's very awkward.
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Joey Chase

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2013, 05:16:16 AM »
For me it is #2 at Crumpin Fox.  I have played that course so many times and every time I can play the hole so very differently depending on the ground conditions, weather, pin position.  On several occasions, I've almost driven the green, and on others, I tried to play safe and just gone over the pin with my approach and three putted.

Sean_A

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2013, 05:56:17 AM »
Almost every course is ranked somewhere.

18 at Kington is a great shout.  If I'm not allowed that then 7 at Brampton.  But I'm sure someone will find Brampton ranked somewhere.

http://www.top100golfcourses.co.uk/htmlsite/searchresult.asp?keyword=brampton&step=1&page=1&sa1.x=0&sa1.y=0

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jeffwarne

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2013, 08:10:47 AM »
Almost every course is ranked somewhere.

18 at Kington is a great shout.  If I'm not allowed that then 7 at Brampton.  But I'm sure someone will find Brampton ranked somewhere.

Oh the joys of golf in the UK ;) where that can said for a large % of the classic courses
17,000 courses here.
Only so many Top 100 courses lists that can be created ;D
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JR Potts

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2013, 08:15:29 AM »
16th hole at Glen Oak Country Club, Glen Ellyn, Illinois.

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2013, 08:29:49 AM »
I'm so sad that no matter how many other courses I play my favourite hole remains the 14th at my home club.




A short par 4 from a tee high above a curving fairway with the river to the left from tee to green.

A shot from 20 years ago shows the hole naked. (Courtesy of Mark Rowlinson)



Reddish Vale was placed last year at no 168 in England. Is that unranked enough?
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Paul Gray

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2013, 08:45:00 AM »
Duncan,

Sad or glad? I think that's rather nice.

Another home town entry..........the 11th at Hayling. Ranked 2nd in Hampshire, 61st in England. Perhaps an unfair entry but in keeping with the spirit of the thread me thinks. Apologies for the rather blurred nature of the image.

157 yards

                    
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Mike Wagner

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2013, 08:45:38 AM »
David - you get my vote for coolest hole...

Michael Ryan

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2013, 08:46:32 AM »
5th at Newport (RI)...under the assumption that unranked means not on GD's top 100 as it gets talked about on other lists (best classic, etc.)

Mike

Jason Thurman

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2013, 09:09:16 AM »
I only played it once years ago, but there's a course in Wisconsin between Madison and Milwaukee, just off the interstate, called The Oaks. It's pretty much the definition of average, and its handful of good moments are usually droned out by the roar of cars rushing by at 75 mph.

But it has a damn good set of par 3s overall. The best of the bunch, I thought, was the fifth. It's fairly short at 171 from the tips, and plays from one hill across a valley to a green located on the highest point on the property. The crowned green has deep bunkers on both sides. It's a fabulous skyline green and, on such an exposed part of the course, its crown repels any shot that doesn't deal effectively with the wind.

There were 20-30 mph winds on the day I played, and they had moved the tees all the way up to 130 or so. Trying to hit a punch 5 iron under the wind and pulling it about two feet too far left is one of the most memorable missed shots I've ever hit. The hole would be a blast from any tee and in any wind as far as I can tell.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2013, 09:13:54 AM »
JK - there's a course in Aurora Ontario called Westview - 27 holes laid out by the land-owner and amateur architect Pops Nesbitt in the 1950s. The 2nd hole on the middle 9 is a 210 yard Par 3 with a kind of reverse Redan type green - a tough, lovely, natural looking and surprising hole. I'm not sure it's my favourite, but it is always the first that comes to mind when I think back for threads like these, so it must be the most memorable. Given your populist sentiments, maybe one day you'll take a trip up and we can play it together. I'm sure you play (and love to play) a whole range of little known, un-ranked courses  :)

Peter

Phil McDade

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2013, 09:18:13 AM »
The 7th at Tom Bendelow's Country Club Estates, in rural Walworth County, Wisc., a terrific nine-hole course with several good candidates for this thread, but the 423-yard par 4 7th stands out, with its rollicking fairway and tough approach shot:






Paul Jones

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2013, 09:18:52 AM »
I really enjoyed Hole 1 at Victoria CC in Australia.
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2013, 09:26:46 AM »
JK - there's a course in Aurora Ontario called Westview - 27 holes laid out by the land-owner and amateur architect Pops Nesbitt in the 1950s. The 2nd hole on the middle 9 is a 210 yard Par 3 with a kind of reverse Redan type green - a tough, lovely, natural looking and surprising hole. I'm not sure it's my favourite, but it is always the first that comes to mind when I think back for threads like these, so it must be the most memorable. Given your populist sentiments, maybe one day you'll take a trip up and we can play it together. I'm sure you play (and love to play) a whole range of little known, un-ranked courses  :)

Peter




Peter not sure its you're kind of music, but your wistful reply loosely  fits the tune quite well. 


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 And in my mind
 I still need a place to go,
 All my changes were there.
 
Blue, blue windows behind the stars,
 Yellow moon on the rise,
 Big birds flying across the sky,
 Throwing shadows on our eyes.
 Leave us
 
Helpless, helpless, helpless
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 Baby, sing with me somehow.
 
Blue, blue windows behind the stars,
 Yellow moon on the rise,
 Big birds flying across the sky,
 Throwing shadows on our eyes.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2013, 10:15:55 AM »
IL - 16 at Ravisloe.
IN - 15 at Mystic Hills
MI - 6 at Angels Crossing
WI - 17 at Spring Valley
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Matthew Petersen

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Re: Your single favorite hole on an unranked course...
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2013, 12:12:36 PM »
One of my favorite holes anywhere is in the middle of nowhere. My dad's side of the family is from a tiny town in south Central Nebraska (this is NOT the sand hills, folks) called Franklin. They have a 9-hole honor course that's not much to write home about, had sand greens until the 80s, but has a nice creek running throughout it and uses that to some good effect there.

Some summers when we would go to visit I would play this track over and over and over, until the humidity or the bugs were just too much.

My favorite was the first, about a 330yd par 4 that went downhill slightly from the clubhouse toward the trees and creek along the outside corner of the dogleg. Then the hole turned left to a long, skinny green (as played from the fairway).

You could try a direct route which required a blind thrash over the hill and most often would leave you in an awkward downhill lie pitching to a very shallow green, or you could play it as an eminently simple drive and pitch starter hole. Simple, but lots of potential. Love that hole.

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