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Philippe Binette

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Flexible courses
« on: January 15, 2013, 09:44:11 PM »
With so much talk on the length issue, the acreage needed for golf, the lost art of pin placement, I felt I needed to put forward the idea of a flexible course.

http://binettegolfarchitecture.blogspot.ca/2013/01/flexible-courses.html

It's only the text part for now, the drawings will come tomorrow, have a nice read

The Old Course is a "flexible course" in certain ways, there is more yardage than the actual length perimeter of the course.

Do you think of some other course that could fit into the concept ? I've heard LA CC had some stuff like that.

Connor Dougherty

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Re: Flexible courses
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 09:55:23 PM »
This was largely a George Thomas concept, which is probably why you heard of LACC having some stuff like that. I love the idea because of the variety thing. I've noticed recently that a lot of tracks were designed so you could play from different spots, but because everyone wants to play from a tee box, you largely end up in the same spot. Chambers Bay is a good example of this, where the tees were designed so the winner of the previous hole selected where to start, but I doubt anyone actually does it.
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Philippe Binette

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Re: Flexible courses
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 10:29:18 PM »
The idea of the flexible course is not to have a long course playing long and with multiple tees..

It's more about having a 6300 yards course for everyday play that can, via some design trick, play 6800 yards or more without requiring more space. 


Connor Dougherty

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Re: Flexible courses
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 01:37:50 AM »
The idea of the flexible course is not to have a long course playing long and with multiple tees..

It's more about having a 6300 yards course for everyday play that can, via some design trick, play 6800 yards or more without requiring more space. 

Philippe,
I wasn't trying to say anything to contradict that statement. In your yardage estimates, Prestwick fits the bill, where they have members tees that move around. However, I don't think that Chambers was necessarily designed to "play long with multiple tees." Yes, it is a long course, but there are what is called "Ribbon Tees," which run directly up to the fairway, so you could pick teeing locations pretty much anywhere you want. It's not like there's pads where you're selecting from 3 or 4 spots each time. Jay Blasi, who worked on the course, mentioned this in his feature interview.
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Philippe Binette

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Re: Flexible courses
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 10:03:14 PM »

Joe Leenheer

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Re: Flexible courses
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 10:17:34 PM »


This is the only place I've played that I can think of that is a bit flexible.  When the X-hole is in play you get a different look at the 11th.
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