[Ben Kodadek]

Heading out to Streamsong this week for the first time.  Can anyone make a recommendation for a particular guy (or gal)?

[Joe Bausch]

Jay Z.

[J_ Crisham]

I will be there next week for 3 days as well- is it all walking? Caddies mandatory? Double or single baggers?

[Brad LeClair]

Doug Wilbur is a great caddie. I had him 4 days last year in Bandon, and he recently moved down to Florida to work at Streamsong. Would highly recommend him.

[Joe Bausch]

I will be there next week for 3 days as well- is it all walking? Caddies mandatory? Double or single baggers?

http://www.streamsongresort.com/golf/caddie-services

[Ulrich Mayring]

If a caddie carries two bags, is he then paid twice? Or do the two players share a single caddie fee?

In any event, charging a golfer an extra $15 walking fee, if he uses no caddie, seems to be asking for failure. We have a newly opened public spa here, they charge about €20 and add a €2.50 parking fee. But there is no way to get to the spa without a car and there is nowhere else to park except on their lot. So there really is no choice for the customer and he feels ripped off. Yes, it's only €2.50 but I know a number of people who told me they're not going there, because they feel their intelligence is insulted by being presented with such a pseudo-choice.

Be fair and up-front about cost. Don't try to play stupid with your customers by hiding service charges.

Ulrich

[Jason Topp]

One with a ball retriever

[Frank Sullivan]

Heading out to Streamsong this week for the first time.  Can anyone make a recommendation for a particular guy (or gal)?

Hey Ben,

I highly recommend Doug Wilbur.  He caddied on tour for quite a while.  He is the best all-around caddie I have had to date.

[SL_Solow]

Ulrich;  The website is quite clear when it states the recommended fee for a caddie is "per bag".  Hence 2 bags, 2 fees.  As far as a charge for a pull cart or walking, many of these courses rely in part on cart fees to remain profitable.  Thus while we may not like the fee, many of us who walk appreciate the option and will pay a small fee for the "privilege", particularly at resort courses.

[corey miller]

Ulrich

It appears to me that the $15 fee you speak of is for a pull-cart rental and not for walking the course. 

[Mike Sweeney]

Ulrich

It appears to me that the $15 fee you speak of is for a pull-cart rental and not for walking the course. 

There is no charge for carrying your own bag at Streamsong. You pay for what you request.

There is currently no requirements to do anything other than pay your green fee to play the golf course. My understanding is that included raters moving forward.

[Will Lozier]

If a caddie carries two bags, is he then paid twice? Or do the two players share a single caddie fee?

Ulrich

Think as a caddie would...are you willing to do twice the work for the same pay!?!

Cheers

[John Kavanaugh]

If a caddie carries two bags, is he then paid twice? Or do the two players share a single caddie fee?

Ulrich

Think as a caddie would...are you willing to do twice the work for the same pay!?!

Cheers

Please, it is not twice the work if you do a half ass job for two people.  It is 1.25 times the work.  I'm sure you are familiar with the economies of scale.

We should get on our knees and thank Streamsong for allowing us to pay  $15 for a pull cart.  You are not out $15, you are saving $65 by not having to take a caddie.

[Adam Clayman]

Please, it is not twice the work if you do a half ass job for two people.  It is 1.25 times the work.  I'm sure you are familiar with the economies of scale.

We should get on our knees and thank Streamsong for allowing us to pay  $15 for a pull cart.  You are not out $15, you are saving $65 by not having to take a caddie.

This is wrong on so many levels.

Work is energy. It takes a lot more than 25% more energy, and a helluva lot more wear and tear on the body, to pack double.

Thank goodness there are people like Mike Keiser who place a huge value on providing employment to many.

[JR Potts]

I'm a huge caddie supporter but the only worse value than having a caddie double bag for double the pay is having to pay the crazy rate for forecaddying/cart-chasing.  Having a caddie double really doesn't provide even close to the same experience as having a single caddie.

That said, I remember having "real stress" about losing a golf ball or not seeing it off the clubface when forecaddying.  About 8 years later in life, I learned what "real stress" was.  About every 8 years or so - my definition of "real stress" is redifined.

[Jud_T]

Can you request singles if they're available?

[Sven Nilsen]

Having a caddie double really doesn't provide even close to the same experience as having a single caddie.

That depends on the caddy.  Some of them wouldn't skip a beat if they had to look out for the entire foursome.

That being said, there should be a line drawn between caddies and bag carriers, and the price should reflect this.

[Ben Kodadek]

Can you request singles if they're available?

Jud,

I believe so.  Why in the world would anyone want to take a double bagger at the same price? 
The fellow who took my reservation said that about half of the rounds were walked, while half were carts.  I'm heading out there tomorrow and will probably walk AM, ride PM.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Can you request singles if they're available?

Jud,

I believe so.  Why in the world would anyone want to take a double bagger at the same price? 
The fellow who took my reservation said that about half of the rounds were walked, while half were carts.  I'm heading out there tomorrow and will probably walk AM, ride PM.

Ben,

So you can play 36 a day.  What are the arrangement or what arrangements have to be made in advance to play 36 a day.

Thanks

[Josh Tarble]

Pat,
They have a day package that includes 2 rounds with cart, use of practice range and breakfast.  I believe their "stay and play" package includes all that plus room.

I decided not to book a package and just made my tee times at separate enough intervals for 36 to be feasible.
 

[Kris Spence]

Patrick, I played on 12/31, 1/1, & 1/2.  We took a cart with forecaddie, had him drive and we walked.  The courses are very wide so this worked well.  I think his fee was 30 a bag plus tip, his name was Will and did a great job.  I enjoyed both courses a great deal, played the Blue first which I think is smart, it is more open and forgiving especially out of the gate.  The Red opens with a ball buster but really appealed to me a great deal, I loved the visual diversity of the land forms on the Red.  The Blue has great strategy but more subdued elevations as a whole.  My favorite hole on the Blue was #13 a great short par 4, my favorite on the Red is split between #4 and #17, both very strategic mid length par 4's with several options off the tee.  

We stayed in the Ross room which has double queens, had the place mostly to ourselves.  The food was great and the golf staff took great care of us.  I think we were test subjects to some degree as they were working out a few bugs with the computer system.  

Kris

[Will Lozier]

If a caddie carries two bags, is he then paid twice? Or do the two players share a single caddie fee?

Ulrich

Think as a caddie would...are you willing to do twice the work for the same pay!?!

Cheers

Please, it is not twice the work if you do a half ass job for two people.  It is 1.25 times the work.  I'm sure you are familiar with the economies of scale.

We should get on our knees and thank Streamsong for allowing us to pay  $15 for a pull cart.  You are not out $15, you are saving $65 by not having to take a caddie.

John,

When was the last time you caddied?  And when was the last time you double bagged?  I can tell you as a former Bandon looper and a math teacher you are simply wrong.  Your 1.25 figure could apply to distance traveled only...and might be a little low even still.  Twice the weight, twice the number of decisions, twice the number of putts to read.   You seem to have some beef with caddies which is a shame because a good one will make your experience that much better.  I won't go so far as to say they are essential by any means in order to have a great day at a great place like BD or Streamsong or anywhere.  But, if you are playing 6 rounds in 4 days, you WILL have a better time with someone on the bag if they know what they are doing.

Cheers

[Patrick_Mucci]

Patrick, I played on 12/31, 1/1, & 1/2.  We took a cart with forecaddie, had him drive and we walked.  The courses are very wide so this worked well.  I think his fee was 30 a bag plus tip, his name was Will and did a great job.  I enjoyed both courses a great deal, played the Blue first which I think is smart, it is more open and forgiving especially out of the gate.  The Red opens with a ball buster but really appealed to me a great deal, I loved the visual diversity of the land forms on the Red.  The Blue has great strategy but more subdued elevations as a whole.  My favorite hole on the Blue was #13 a great short par 4, my favorite on the Red is split between #4 and #17, both very strategic mid length par 4's with several options off the tee.  

We stayed in the Ross room which has double queens, had the place mostly to ourselves.  The food was great and the golf staff took great care of us.  I think we were test subjects to some degree as they were working out a few bugs with the computer system.  

Kris,

I've duplicated you suggestions, blue first, red second, double queens, etc., etc..

Thanks

P.S.   How's the practice range and the balls you hit.
        How's the practice putting green, is it representative of what you find on both golf courses ?
        How about a short game area ?

 

[John Kavanaugh]

I have never caddied but I do estimate the cost of labor as a living.  Don't you work the same amount of time, have the same level of training and experience and require the same amount of equipment if you double or single bag?  The only cost to the caddie that I see is wear and tear on his body. By using a factor of 1.25 I estimate that a caddie who double bags will need to be replaced sooner which will increase my training costs. Please note that any additional work the caddie is doing will be rewarded with considerable additional compensation. Any monies that the caddie receives over the 1.25 factor is pure gravy for him.

What factor would you use?

[Bill_McBride]

I have never caddied but I do estimate the cost of labor as a living.  Don't you work the same amount of time, have the same level of training and experience and require the same amount of equipment if you double or single bag?  The only cost to the caddie that I see is wear and tear on his body. By using a factor of 1.25 I estimate that a caddie who double bags will need to be replaced sooner which will increase my training costs. Please note that any additional work the caddie is doing will be rewarded with considerable additional compensation. Any monies that the caddie receives over the 1.25 factor is pure gravy for him.

What factor would you use?

I haven't caddied for over 50 years, but vividly recall my rounds at the Meadow Club, where, as the new guy, I was sent out carrying two tour bags for two ladies who played army golf (left, right, left, right).  You had to trot from one to the next, often across the fairway, as each expected you to be there when they reached their ball.  They didn't hit many over 150 yards but that just accelerated the trotting. 

No, packing double is more than twice the effort.  As occasionally happens, you are full of it on this one!

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