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John Burnes

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...But what about the first guy(s)?!
« on: August 21, 2012, 05:49:15 PM »
All-

Hoping you can help.  Like many great American courses, we were established early as a rudimentary set of holes (1890s), then or with that, was 9 holes, then became 18 holes by an architect (or in our case, the head pro), 1910-1930.

I want to recognize the 18 hole designer, as that is the course we play today, 99 years later.

Question is, are there any fine old courses out there that existed (in whatever shape) before a name architect came in and made it 18 or established the course that is played today?

Parameters-

Must be only architect recognized by the club.

Must be a top 100 course (not be an an elitist, but it will help my argument).



Patrick_Mucci

Re: ...But what about the first guy(s)?!
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 05:57:05 PM »
John,

GCGC would seem to fit some of your criteria

John Kavanaugh

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Re: ...But what about the first guy(s)?!
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 05:58:03 PM »
Baltusrol was a fine course before Tillie came in.

John Burnes

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Re: ...But what about the first guy(s)?!
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 05:59:42 PM »
Pat-

Forgive me, GCGC is?

Patrick_Mucci

Re: ...But what about the first guy(s)?!
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 06:03:31 PM »
GCGC = Garden City Golf Club

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: ...But what about the first guy(s)?!
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 11:51:45 PM »
I suspect that St. Andrews Old would work.  Same is true of many courses in the UK.
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Jason Topp

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Re: ...But what about the first guy(s)?!
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 09:10:46 AM »
Minneapolis has a number of courses that fit this profile.  I suspect Minnekahda would be the best for your purposes but I do not have Rick Shefchick's book to give specifics.