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Don_Mahaffey

Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2012, 11:23:05 AM »
Bill:

I'm at Rock Creek right now.  We built wide fairways here to try and keep the ball out of the native roughs, because the native roughs have 1,000,000 rocks, and there was no good way to clean out the rocks without destroying the native grasses.

However, there are carries from tee to fairway on most of the holes, so I don't think it's close to 86 acres of fairway here.  I haven't seen Wolf Point yet, but my impression is that there are relatively few carries from tee to fairway, even from the back tees.  THAT is how you wind up with a lot of fairway.
Tom,
There are few carries at WP, but the tee connection to the fwys is very similar to what we are doing at DR, a swath of turf large enough to handle cart and maintenance traffic, and drag a gang mower through. Its not like the fwys are 40 yards wide 20 yards off the tee and even though the back tees are connected to the fwy by a strip of turf, you often do have to carry native to get to the proper side of the fwy.

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2012, 11:33:58 AM »
Stephen
Good luck with your invitation to WP.   :D

Below the darker green is short grass
The GIANT lawn in the middle (1, 4 & 5 fairways) adds a lot of short grass.
And I've seen players use every bit of it.

Looking at the picture, I'm reminded how there was supposed to be a little more short grass turf on #7 - it is a pretty long carry from one of the tees.
The center lines pictured are 4,500 and 6,500 yards

Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Howard Riefs

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2012, 11:34:17 AM »
I would bet it is Old Mac but Bulls Bay has quite a bit.

Bulls Bay is definitely a contender.
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Stephen Davis

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »
Mike,

I don't think an invitation will be forthcoming any time soon, although it looks like an absolute blast to play. I think you may be correct that this has as much short grass as any routing I have seen. I am sure this was just as much fun to build as it looks like it is to play.

Stephen

George Pazin

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2012, 02:57:57 PM »
Geez, it's like you guys have never read a Castle Stuart thread. The fairways there are all 80-100 yards wide!

 :)

I love that layout of WP. That's how golf is in my dreams...
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 03:00:57 PM by George Pazin »
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2012, 05:16:02 PM »
Thanks Stephen
Glad you know I was just playing rough.

Castle Stuart looks great from above, but has 48 acres of short grass.
Next.
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Neil_Crafter

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2012, 09:17:45 PM »
is there some sort of a prize?  ;)

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2012, 09:36:32 PM »
I hope so Neil

It isn't going to Apache Stronghold.
Hard to measure, but between 45 & 55.
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Trey Kemp

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2012, 05:11:34 PM »
Tiburon Golf Club in Naples, FL is a 36-hole Greg Norman design that does not have any rough on either course.  I do not think either course has 86 acres of fairway, but they do have a lot.
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Jim Johnson

Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2012, 11:04:16 PM »
Their website states that the Rawls Course at Texas Tech has 115-125 acres of fairway turf.
http://www.therawlscourse.com/The-Rawls-Course-Overview_563e75.html

Calling Tom Doak.....

Sam Morrow

Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2012, 11:05:50 PM »
Their website states that the Rawls Course at Texas Tech has 115-125 acres of fairway turf.
http://www.therawlscourse.com/The-Rawls-Course-Overview_563e75.html

Calling Tom Doak.....


That must count the giant circular range.

Tom_Doak

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2012, 07:31:20 AM »
Their website states that the Rawls Course at Texas Tech has 115-125 acres of fairway turf.
http://www.therawlscourse.com/The-Rawls-Course-Overview_563e75.html

Calling Tom Doak.....


That must count the giant circular range.

Ooh, I forgot that one.  Yes, it would include the range, but I think it's right that we planted 115 acres of TifSport between the range and the fairways and tees ... I can't remember if they mow some of it at rough height or not.  The whole golf course was something over 200 acres of turf!

Lester George

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2012, 10:06:39 AM »
At last count Ballyhack had 56 acres of fairway, 5 acres of greens.

Lester

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: What 18 hole golf course has the most fairway?
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2012, 10:28:17 AM »
Prairie Club-Dunes has approximately 78 acres of fairways, not including greens or tees.

FWIW, Sand Hills has approx. 43 acres, as does Pac Dunes.
Bandon Dunes has about 45, Wild Horse has approximately 49, Rustic Canyon 50, and Kapalua Plantation 52 acres.

Thank you Jim
I missed your post earlier
Cheers

& Thank you Lester
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

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