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Mark Pearce

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2012, 07:10:07 PM »
It says all we need to know about John K's world view that he thinks all of the UK posters who have contributed to this thread are Londoners.  Typical New Yorker.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Matthew Hunt

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2012, 07:14:38 PM »
I have enjoyed all the Londoners chiming in, even those not old enough to vote,


John, if referring to me I am most definitely not a Londoner and been voting for a few years now! ;D

James Boon

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2012, 07:15:31 PM »
Mark,

I was about to say to John that I may love London, but please don't call me a Londoner! ;)

Cheers,

James
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2012, 07:21:10 PM »
I have enjoyed all the Londoners chiming in, even those not old enough to vote,


John, if referring to me I am most definitely not a Londoner and been voting for a few years now! ;D

How the hell old are you now.  I thought you were 15 when we last spoke.

Matthew Hunt

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2012, 07:39:39 PM »
I have enjoyed all the Londoners chiming in, even those not old enough to vote,


John, if referring to me I am most definitely not a Londoner and been voting for a few years now! ;D

How the hell old are you now.  I thought you were 15 when we last spoke.

Time moves on... i'm now 20! :)

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2012, 07:58:11 PM »
Watching the opening ceremonies on tape delay. Oh God, I'm so sorry. I think all the security is to keep people from leaving.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2012, 08:04:43 PM »
Why is Abraham Lincoln dancing?

Tim Martin

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2012, 09:21:31 PM »
Watching the opening ceremonies on tape delay. Oh God, I'm so sorry. I think all the security is to keep people from leaving.

Ryan Seacrest interviewing the athletes. Really?

RJ_Daley

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2012, 12:55:14 AM »
I don't know jack about building architecture, but I think I can glean from this thread who does. 

All I know about these opening days of the Olys are they seem steeped in irony.  Rupert's newsrag has the headline, "Mitt the Twitt" and then the Oly powers that be in London have begun to go about the Brit's manner of understatedly proving Mitt the Twit, wrong.

JK's attempt at Socratic irony seems to fall on its face as he exposed his own jingoistic inclinations and incomplete knowledge of building-design architecture in an attempt to ferret out a debate over a controversy he thought he could win, and subsequently was well... outwitted, IMHO. 

But, with Mitt the Twit sitting in attendance the best of all the delicious ironies was the opening ceremony program giving great prominence and prideful display of the the Brits NHS, in the health care carpet baggers face.  First time I ever cheered outloud for a opening ceremony!  ;D

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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2012, 06:05:39 AM »
Glad you enjoyed it Dick, I wonder if the humour translated to a worldwide audience or indeed those in the ‘cheap’ seats.  For those of us at home brought up on the Morcambe and Wise show it all made perfect sense. The firework display had my whole street out and cheering.


GCA was represented there,  once removed.
Mark Rowlinson revealed that at The Royal College of Music  his repetiteur was  Simon Rattle, the conductor for the Rowan Atkinson sketch.  To explain Rattle’s eminence in his field, Mark added it  would be like saying your caddy when on the college golf team, was Tiger Woods.
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2012, 07:17:25 AM »


Tony, did I read you wrong or are you not a fan of Hopkins? Just curious?



James I was having a cheap shot at a cheap guy who has rubbed up friends and business associates the wrong way. I've will admit to never having met him because he’s always been sidelined  off the project by the time I’ve been involved, but I’ve never heard a nice word about him.


But I've never seen a building of his I didn't admire, and his lack of any signature styling is most impressive across a long career. I've been lucky enough to have worked on a few of this buildings  and see them up close. History will be kind to him.

Top 3?
Schlumberger Research Centre
Glyndebourne (must admit not been there ....yet)
The new Velodrome.


Ben made a very interesting point earlier. Britain has such a history and a lack of space that really interesting work is taking place converting old buildings to new uses. Another fine piece of work was his conversion of the Old Financial Times building Bracken House.

I’ve seen a lot of great work in the past Quarter Century in London and I doubt there’s ever been a time when the reputation of British Architects has been so high internationally.
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Mark Pearce

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2012, 07:28:09 AM »
Tony,

Another interesting conversion is the Baltic Contemporary Arts Centre in Gateshead, which was a disused flour mill.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2012, 08:01:08 AM »
I am very grateful for everyone's participation in this thread. I enjoyed being able to identify the modern buildings during the flyover sequences last night.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 08:03:00 AM by John Kavanaugh »

Scott Warren

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #63 on: July 28, 2012, 08:03:44 AM »
Speaking of refurbishments, what's the latest with Battersea Power Station?

Mark Johnson

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #64 on: July 28, 2012, 11:50:52 AM »
what are the long-term plans for olympic stadium?

Would West Ham or Tottenham every consider moving to there?

Ben Attwood

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2012, 12:49:29 PM »
what are the long-term plans for olympic stadium?

Would West Ham or Tottenham every consider moving to there?

They're both keen but it's not been straight forward:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-remain-best-option-for-olympic-stadium-insists-karren-brady-7976323.html

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2012, 05:47:23 PM »
The beach volleyball arena is fantastic. Architect Peter Richardson should be applauded for his work. So much less selfish than what else we have seen.

Mark Johnson

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2012, 05:53:07 PM »
what are the long-term plans for olympic stadium?

Would West Ham or Tottenham every consider moving to there?

They're both keen but it's not been straight forward:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-remain-best-option-for-olympic-stadium-insists-karren-brady-7976323.html

Thanks for sharing.  Seems odd that West Ham would be the likely choice, since they seem to be close to relegation every year.   No way they could afford the rent on Championship revenues

Mark Chaplin

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2012, 06:06:40 PM »
JK why did you turn around after the Atlanta bombing? I don't recall the Games being cancelled.

Rich your diving quote is rather misleading, it's 600 seats that were withdrawn from the diving. It's 4800 in total for all the sessions. I was at Earls Court today for the volleyball and the restricted view seats clearly hadn't been sold.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #69 on: July 28, 2012, 08:23:35 PM »
JK why did you turn around after the Atlanta bombing? I don't recall the Games being cancelled.


I was supposed to go the next day and only had tickets to boxing and no place to stay. It was an 11 hour drive in good traffic, I have a feeling Atlanta was shut down after the bombing. Not sure I could have gotten in town. I also am a scaredycat who tends to cut his losses in the face of great adversity. I took a loss of $100.

Mark Chaplin

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2012, 03:34:26 AM »
Scott - Chelsea wanted Battersea for there new ground but that fell down. I believe flats is next, I won't get excited until something happens as its a constant disappointment there.
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2012, 03:56:46 AM »
Let's make GCA grate again!

Ben Stephens

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2012, 04:15:03 PM »
Link to information re: Olympic Architecture

http://www.ajbuildingslibrary.co.uk/search?tagID=2362

I went to Wembley Arena to watch the badminton as my dad is a fan of the game + realised it was the only venue in the 2012 Olympics that was used in 1948! Then it was the Empire Pool first used for the Empire Games (now Commonwealth Games) 1934! WOW

Cheers
Ben

Kalen Braley

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2012, 07:13:47 PM »
Then to add insult to injury....the spectators issue, ie the lack thereof, has been a complete and utter failure:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/29/sport/empty-seats-olympic-venues/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

"Athletes have also expressed dismay that their families have been unable to attend events.

Irish swimmer Barry Murphy tweeted: "Hundreds of empty seats again in the Aquatic Center. My parents would've given an arm and leg to get in."

Indian tennis player Mahesh Bhupathi tweeted: "Been trying for 6 hours now to buy my wife a ticket to watch me play tomorrow. Still no luck, and the grounds here feel empty. Absurd!!!""

Mark Chaplin

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Re: Beijing vs London Olympic Architecture
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »
Kalen - the general sale areas are rammed, I've been to two events already and they were busy, yesterday at the fencing it was completely full and a brilliant atmosphere. Unfortunately the seats that are empty are the accredited areas which tend to be the best seats so in view of the TV cameras.

People moan but these games are a massive ticketing success, people who didn't get what they wanted will never be happy but we've never sold a handball ticket in the UK and 400,000 were sold. Yes a million soccer tickets weren't sold but the stadiums take up to 80,000 they could have put the games in smaller 25,000 venues and sold out and everyone would moan there wasn't enough tickets on sale. Bottom line is womens football was zero interest to the masses.

Before siting ticketing as a "complete and utter failure" I suggest a little research rather than believing every word the press have to say, the games are going well so they are short of stories.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2012, 07:28:20 PM by Mark Chaplin »
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