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Jason Thurman

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Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« on: May 30, 2012, 08:55:03 PM »
Hidden Cove in Olive Hill, KY is part of the Kentucky State Parks Golf Trail. Designed by Brian and Eric Ault, it opened in 2004 and plays to par of 72 and a bit over 7100 yards from the tips. The Aults routed the course around some really difficult Eastern Kentucky terrain but laid out a pretty playable golf course that uses more of the moderate slopes around the heavily-wooded property.

Anyone who's frequented GCA over the years has heard Doug Ralston trumpet the merits of this course, so I'll be putting some pictures with his words. I'll profile the course six holes a time over the next few days.

Yardages listed are from the #2 tees, which I played.

1st hole: 356 yard par 4

Shrouded in fog on today's visit, the first plays between two giant bunkers. The player who flirts with the right side bunker gets the best angle into the green. Probably no need to take driver here, but the fog made the air really heavy and my 3 iron left a long way home. Nonetheless, a very good opening hole that's not a slouch but not too difficult to begin the day either.



The approach reveals a green that opens from the right. Like most at Hidden Cove, it's large and has a decent amount of contour.





2nd hole: 390 yard par 4

Two large bunkers again dominate the tee shot. This time, the right play is to hug the left side to get the angle into the green.



Bunkers guard the green right. Hidden Cove does a really nice job of using angles to create interest and also rewarding players who use them with more options for their approach shots.



3rd hole: 526 yard par 5

Things get a little bigger at number 3. A sweeping dogleg right, it looks tight from the tee but there's plenty of room once you get around the first few trees right. There's also endless room left, but bunkers and poor angles make it a bad place to miss.



In the heavy fog, reaching in two was out of the question. A huge bunker dominates the layup. Shorter hitters may need to stay short or be very accurate in going around to the left.



Again, Hidden Cove rewards the player who challenges the bunker with a better line into the green. While not in play for me, my shorter-hitting mother appreciated the location of this hazard and how it made her think on the layup.



Looking back from the green.



4th hole: 135 yard par 3

A shorter par 3, the 4th plays just a shade uphill. Pretty straightforward, but again, the design makes it playable for the low-ball hitter by giving them a break in the bunkers from their teeing angle.



5th hole: 509 yard par 5

This relatively short par 5 feels pretty claustrophobic from the tee. Again though, the playing corridors are ample and a ball hit a relatively decent distance will clear the first few trees right and stay in play.



From the layup area, it's an uphill approach to a green with a huge tier running through the front left section.





6th hole: 375 yard par 4

While this photo is awful, the 6th plays over a saddle in the fairway and doglegs slightly right off the tee.



Leaving this very tough approach over a small stream. One of the more exacting approach shots on the property to another severely tiered green.



Again, the fog left the camera struggling to focus, but you can see a bit of the tier from this right-side photo.



To be continued...
« Last Edit: May 31, 2012, 11:03:22 AM by Jason Thurman »
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Jason Thurman

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 10:25:03 AM »
Moving to holes 7-12, the fog started clearing and the pics get a bit less fuzzy.

7th hole: 155 yard par 3

A fairly straightforward short hole, 7 crosses a deep ravine to bridge the routing back toward the clubhouse. It plays mostly level and has a pronounced false front that makes coming up short problematic. Barely visible in this photo is another large ridge through the green that will funnel balls back toward a front pin location.



8th hole: 414 yard par 4

The toughest hole on the course, 8 comes out of the forest and into a clearing atop a ridge. As a relatively long hole, the fairway makes things difficult by pinching in at the ideal landing spot for a driver. This tee shot is really the first "hit a great shot or pay the price" moment on the course, but the playing corridor is still plenty wide enough to keep the ball in play even if you miss the fairway.



Subtle contours in the fairway provide interest on the approach across what is otherwise one of the less scenic and dramatic areas of the property.



9th hole: 327 yard par 4

If 8 spells out a clear and specific goal (hit it here or be punished), 9 is LOADED with options. A short, dogleg par 4, long players might be able to take a rip at it in the right conditions. Certainly, a player could fire one just short of the green and leave a short pitch. Layups are also an option, but bunkers in the landing area make them tricky. I elected to play a long iron just short of the centerline bunker. On another play, I'd probably take 3 wood to carry the bunker and leave a straightforward wedge.



A look from just in front of the forward tees shows how the ideal angle of approach is from just beyond the bunkered area in the layup zone. A great risk/reward tee shot on the layup or for the shorter hitter, as a player who challenges the centerline bunker off the tee and carries it gets a perfect angle while the player who hits into it is dead.





10th hole: 340 yard par 4

Moving away from the clubhouse and into the back nine, 10 plays over another less interesting section of the property. For a short par 4, you can layup to a fairway with plenty of width or try and get past the fairway bunker to make it a very short hole.



From the landing zone, it's a steeply uphill approach.



11th hole: 205 yard par 3

While perhaps 10 is a breather hole, 11 demands one tough shot. Steeply downhill, it's a long par 3 best played with a draw off the tee.



12th hole: 535 yard par 5

An excellent par 5, 12 plays downhill from the tee. The bunker left can be carried with a big blast, and you'll need to get close to it if you want to reach in two here.



From near the right-side fairway bunker, it's a long way to a green with a narrow neck.



Plenty of contour in the green makes 3-putts possible for anyone who reaches in 2 but doesn't get it all the way to the hole. The slope near the rear of the green can be used to feed a ball toward this back pin.


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Lester George

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 10:35:09 AM »
Jason,

Nice pictures.  It seems like the majority of the Kentucky sites were "difficult terrain", at least the one I did was.  Just to accurate, Brian is Erics father.  Thought you may want to know.

Lester

Jason Thurman

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 11:10:58 AM »
Lester, thanks for clarifying. I had heard "Ault Brothers" from some friends, and am glad to get to the bottom of the family tree...

If you're referring to the State Park courses as severe sites, you're definitely correct among the ones I've seen. I've played Dale Hollow, Hidden Cove, and Eagle Ridge of the fairly recently designed Signature Series. All three are part of State Parks built around a manmade impoundment, and as a result, the terrain tends to be extremely steep and difficult.

Of the three, Hidden Cove is probably the most walkable and the most playable within its corridors. There's plenty of elevation change, but most of the course is routed through manageable slopes. It would be a very difficult walk, but certainly not impossible. I think a twosome playing quickly could do it in four hours. I've heard the paths are 7 miles long, which is a lot but still quite a bit shorter than some of the courses I've walked. There are two or three VERY long transitions though (500+ yards).

I haven't played Kincaid, but it's not far from my home in Cincinnati. I might get out there later this year.
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Carl Rogers

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 03:28:32 PM »
Pine Mountain, Wasioto Winds, is basically a flat course with few climbs.  It sits in a valley surrounded by attractive but not high hills.  It is better than a basic course.  If I lived 10 minutes from it, I would play there a lot and not be unhappy.
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Jason Thurman

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2012, 05:14:55 PM »
Great point Carl. I forgot about Wasioto. I haven't played it, but I've seen photos that show how flat it looks. I'm assuming it would be an easy walk, and while a few holes look very narrow due to water, it also looks like an enjoyable track. Unfortunately, I doubt I'll ever drive that far out to nowhere and play it.
"There will always be haters. That’s just the way it is. Hating dudes marry hating women and have hating ass kids." - Evan Turner

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Jason Thurman

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 10:16:51 AM »
On to the final stretch.

13th hole: 335 yard par 4

The final third begins with what I believe is the first (semi) blind shot on the course. From the 13th tee, you can see two bunkers left of the fairway but not much more. It was a nice touch of discomfort on what to this point is a pretty straighforward course.



Again, hugging the bunkers left gives the best angle to a green that opens from the front left.



14th hole: 370 yard par 4

14 plays straight and flat across a fairly uninteresting section of the property. The terrain on the final six holes at Hidden Cove is not quite as strong as the first 12 holes, but the Aults did a good job of incorporating bunkering and some deception and taking advantage of the slopes the had to continue the high level of interest on each hole. While the terrain here has less movement, you don't notice it when playing.



Once again, bunkers right challenge the ideal landing area as the green uses angles to reward the bolder player.



From nearer the green.



15th hole: 155 yard Par 3

Once again, the Aults use a par 3 to traverse a difficult ravine and produce a playable hole. The 15th probably stands as my favorite par 3 on the course. It plays uphill to a very undulating and large green.



16th hole: 585 yard par 5

The longest hole on the course features ample width off the tee, and gradually becomes more treacherous nearer the green. Playing into the wind as it did on my visit, it's a LONG way home.



I didn't get a good shot of the layup, but a fantastic low profile green emerges from the approach area. Lots and lots of short game options around this hole.



17th hole: 400 yard par 4

Running parallel to the previous hole, 17 played with the wind which made carrying the right bunker to gain an excellent angle an option. Somehow, I forgot to get a shot of the approach.



18th hole: 375 yard par 4

Hidden Cove closes with a forced layup for bigger hitters, which I didn't care for. However, the 18th itself is a strong hole. It's about 250 to the water and laying back too far creates a really long approach to a green that requires quite a bit of precision.



The final approach shot is all uphill to a green protected by bunkers left and a grass mound center. This green slopes very steeply from back to front.



A few thoughts on Hidden Cove.

* I've now played 3 of Kentucky's Signature Series State Park courses (Hidden Cove, Eagle Ridge, and Dale Hollow). All three feature dramatic terrain, but Hidden Cove uses it to produce by far the most playable course. It's not impossible to lose balls here, but it does take a really awful shot. The slopes are significant but playable. Hidden Cove is also the only one of the three that I would attempt to walk, and while it would be difficult with some VERY long transitions, it certainly wouldn't be too awful. The Aults produced a really playable, enjoyable course with plenty of teeth.

* If anything holds Hidden Cove back, it's a lack of GREAT holes. In general, it's 18 very solid holes that fit together wonderfully, but it's hard to pick out the best on the course. This is probably evidence of a good design, but it also isn't especially memorable.

* Hidden Cove is the most strategically bunkered course I've played in Kentucky. My sample size is significant but by no means comprehensive and mostly publics.

I'd recommend Hidden Cove as a probable cartball course that I think most golfers would really enjoy. It's not a world beater, but I've played enough of the top courses in Kentucky to feel comfortable calling it the state's best public track. It's difficult to get there, and it's unlikely you'd be passing through the area, but I think it's a worthwhile stop for anyone within 90 minutes or so. It's hard to imagine anyone not enjoying it a lot, as it's extremely playable for high handicappers but also very challenging for better players. It's at least a Doak 6, and there's a compelling case for it as a Doak 7.
"There will always be haters. That’s just the way it is. Hating dudes marry hating women and have hating ass kids." - Evan Turner

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John Mayhugh

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 01:22:57 PM »
Thanks for the photo tour.  I've played most of the Kentucky park courses, but still have seen none of the ones on the east side of I-75.  For the most part, the courses are scenic, but not particularly interesting architecturally. 

Your comments about the bunkering at Hidden Cove make me determined to check it out sometime this summer.  Thanks.

Criss Titschinger

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Re: Hidden Cove (Olive Hill, KY) Photo Tour
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 04:42:56 PM »
Jason, Thanks again for this photo tour. Haven't seen a full photo tour of Hidden Cove yet. I, like John, am determined to get down there some time this summer.

You're not the only person who I've heard say it may be the best public course in the state. I've yet to play Hidden Cove; so for me, that honor goes to Dale Hallow.

I'll be interested to see your take on Eagle Ridge. I have pics of every hole. I really should have done a photo tour after I played last year.

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