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Bart Bradley

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If you are a dedicated walker...
« on: May 29, 2012, 01:38:00 PM »
If you are a dedicated walker (walk at least 75% of your golf rounds),  what is your favorite course where you rode in a golf cart because you felt it to be necessary?  I am not asking about a course that you easily would have walked but didn't because your host rode ...I am asking about courses that you felt were too tough of a hike to walk.

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Brent Hutto

Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 01:56:44 PM »
I'm having a hard time thinking of any course I've ever played in a cart for a reason other than the course not allowing me to walk or getting in the cart for social reasons to be with a host (or guest) who wanted us to ride. Maybe that would happen more often if I lived or frequently visited mountainous areas or other places with difficult terrain.

My problem is probably a circular definition thing. For me so much of the concept of "playing golf" is tied up with walking it's hard to imagine a course that I would think is of outstanding quality, not to be missed, while also being unwalkable. Imaging a great course tends to conjure up a fairly compact routing as part of what makes it great. But I know there are exceptions out there even if they don't come to mind. I'll be curious to see other guys' answers...

jonathan_becker

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 01:58:13 PM »
Stone Eagle with 100* temps.

Jay Flemma

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 02:04:25 PM »
Exactly, Jonathan. When it's 98 or higher, it's okay to take a cart.  PGA West Stadium course is a great example.  I walked it in 105 temps...and was sick for three weeks +.
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Mark Johnson

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 02:05:15 PM »
prince course.

Stephen Davis

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 02:08:38 PM »
Sand Hollow, Hurricane, UT. It gets hot and the back is very hilly. It would be a climb to walk that course and to healthy in the heat. It is a beautiful course though.

Mark Saltzman

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 02:09:43 PM »
The Patriot -- tremendous cart ball routing.

Wolf Creek would be up there too.

Keith Phillips

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 02:13:12 PM »
Played Talking Stick North in August a couple years back - played in 2 hours in a cart in 108 degree weather, drinking a couple gallons of water along the way - place was a ghost town and there is no way I would have been able to walk it that day.

Matthew Mollica

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 02:14:09 PM »
Not so much one course Bart -

I think the only time I'e been really happy to have a cart is while the weather was horrible, the rain heavy, and winds strong.
The cart provided shelter from the elements, and a place to store dry towels.

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Garland Bayley

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 02:18:08 PM »
Sagebrush
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Bill_McBride

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 02:28:27 PM »
Ballyhack and Stone Eagle anytime.

Pretty much anywhere when the temperature is over 90 and humidity over 65%. 

Keith OHalloran

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 02:32:12 PM »
I agree with Sand Hollow in Utah. Had to ride, and liked it a lot.

I also like the course at Foxwoods casino in CT, and I am not sure you could walk it even on a nice day. It is routed all over the place.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2012, 02:35:37 PM »
I've come down with heel spurs, but before I was hit with that - these conditions would get me into a cart:

A Few Clouds  89 °F  (32 °C)   
Humidity:   53 %
Wind Speed:   SW 8 MPH
Barometer:   29.79" (1008.3 mb)
Dewpoint:   70 °F (21 °C)
Heat Index:   94 °F (34 °C)
Visibility:   10.00 mi.

Brent Hutto

Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2012, 03:02:57 PM »
I've come down with heel spurs, but before I was hit with that - these conditions would get me into a cart:

A Few Clouds  89 °F  (32 °C)   
Humidity:   53 %
Wind Speed:   SW 8 MPH
Barometer:   29.79" (1008.3 mb)
Dewpoint:   70 °F (21 °C)
Heat Index:   94 °F (34 °C)
Visibility:   10.00 mi.

Hmmm, around here we call that "a cool day in May".

Tim Martin

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 03:04:51 PM »
Oxford Greens-A Mark Mungeam design in New Haven County Connecticut. Pure ass cartball with a really fun set of greens. Crazy elevation changes and some long walks between tees and greens on a pretty severe piece of land. The only way I would even think about walking it is if you told me that there was a sack of cash waiting for me on18 green. ;D

Doug Wright

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 03:16:47 PM »
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David_Tepper

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 03:28:03 PM »
The NCGA owned and operated Poppy Ridge course in Livermore, CA has some very long & uphill walks from greens to tees. It would be a good place to have a cart with a rack to hold 4 golf bags. 

Sean_A

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2012, 03:42:16 PM »
Well, I didn't ride and never have, but I think Tobacco Road would be a good cart course.  I don't think the walk is very good, but I do like the course.  Plus, a bit of cool breeze helps around that dusty property.  I did cart it around Bulls Bay and there are significant walks between green and tees, but I don't know if I would consider a cart necessary until I walked it.  Other than that, I would say Shepherds Hollow and Lederach are the only good cart courses I have played where I actually took a cart.  

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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 03:43:59 PM »
Oxford Greens-A Mark Mungeam design in New Haven County Connecticut. Pure ass cartball with a really fun set of greens. Crazy elevation changes and some long walks between tees and greens on a pretty severe piece of land. The only way I would even think about walking it is if you told me that there was a sack of cash waiting for me on18 green. ;D

Agreed, along with Gilette Ridge.
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Ben Voelker

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2012, 03:49:27 PM »
Morgan Hill in Easton, PA.

To be fair, I would like to try to walk it someday, but it is on a property with brutal elevation changes.  I play quite a bit with an indifferent walker, i.e. he walks when I do, but is just as happy to take a cart.  He is quite a bit older than me and would not walk it.

Other than having to ride, it really is a spectacular layout and one of my favorite courses in the northern New Jersey/eastern PA area.  It is also the only course I have played in the area that I would play if I were forced to take a cart.  I have been close to a few arguments with clubhouse staff at courses where they were causing a stir about my request to walk, even when paying the cart fee.

Joe Bausch

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2012, 03:57:35 PM »
Morgan Hill in Easton, PA.

To be fair, I would like to try to walk it someday, but it is on a property with brutal elevation changes.  I play quite a bit with an indifferent walker, i.e. he walks when I do, but is just as happy to take a cart.  He is quite a bit older than me and would not walk it.

Other than having to ride, it really is a spectacular layout and one of my favorite courses in the northern New Jersey/eastern PA area.  It is also the only course I have played in the area that I would play if I were forced to take a cart.  I have been close to a few arguments with clubhouse staff at courses where they were causing a stir about my request to walk, even when paying the cart fee.

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Excellent choice Ben!  I did walk Morgan Hill one time out of my 5 or so visits there.  But it wasn't during the summer.
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Dan Kelly

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2012, 04:00:10 PM »
Sutton Bay.

I'm guessing the new course will be friendlier to walkers.
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Cory Lewis

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2012, 04:01:03 PM »
Stone Canyon in AZ.  They suggested I ride because of the elevation and some of the distances between holes, I think I could walk it in cooler weather.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2012, 06:00:04 PM »
I walk and carry 95% of the time.  I try to walk even courses deemed unwalkable. It just takes a little longer.  If I am with a person in a cart I will catch a ride from green to next tee of it is a long hike.  The exceptions are in the heat of Arizona and some courses like Sanctuary and Lakota Canyon in Colorado where I have ridden.
In recent years I will take a cart for the second 18 if the course is hilly.  I hate doing it but I don't seem to be able to carry as much as I used to.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: If you are a dedicated walker...
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2012, 06:10:07 PM »
Because of the big hike from 10 green to 11 to 12 tee, when I have guests at Crystal Downs and it's hot, I'll suggest we walk the front nine but take a cart for the back [or at least one cart for a foursome].  This seems to be a good solution for everyone if you don't have all four guys who are adamant about walking.

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