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Patrick Hodgdon

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GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« on: March 16, 2011, 11:37:32 AM »
Happy Birthday to Tom Doak and Bill McBride today! Hope it's a good one boys.
Did you know World Woods has the best burger I've ever had in my entire life? I'm planning a trip back just for another one between rounds.

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Garland Bayley

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Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 11:45:41 AM »
I think the state of Oregon has decided to offer up some of its famous liquid sunshine for Bill today.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Richard Choi

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Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 11:53:54 AM »
Happy Birthday! I hope the next 50 years will be just as productive as last 50.

Dan Kelly

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Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 11:56:29 AM »
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Jim Colton

Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 12:18:29 PM »
Happy Birthday to Bill and Tom, who combined have contributed about 2.6% of the site's 1 million posts.

Question for Tom: if a wide-eyed 20 year old came up to you today and said he wanted to study golf courses and be a golf course architect what advice would you give him? (find another major?)

Tom_Doak

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Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 12:27:08 PM »
Happy Birthday to Bill and Tom, who combined have contributed about 2.6% of the site's 1 million posts.

Question for Tom: if a wide-eyed 20 year old came up to you today and said he wanted to study golf courses and be a golf course architect what advice would you give him? (find another major?)


Jim:

I get maybe 30 letters a year like that.  Obviously, there is not room for 30 young people a year to succeed in this business.

When I was 18 [eighteen!!], I wrote the same letter to Geoffrey Cornish, and his response was that there would "always be room in this business for people with real talent."  I still have the letter, and it was such a contrast with some of the other responses that I got [and threw away] that I have always made time to be encouraging to the next generation. 

That was in the late 1970's, when the economy sucked almost as badly as it does today.  It was a really good time to be 18 and have several years of learning ahead, instead of 28 with a family and trying to make a living.  The same is probably true right now.  Youth is a great advantage, if you know not to waste it.

JR Potts

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Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 12:35:33 PM »
Youth is a great advantage, if you know not to waste it.
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And therein lies life's greatest dilemma.  What is "wasting it"?  I've worked my ass off from my mid-twenties up until today (early 30s).  I have a lot of cool things to show for it and a family that sees a good amount of me but certainly not enough.  

I've only traveled out of the country once....the maximum vacation length I can take is 4 days due to work obligations....did I/am I wasting my youth or capitalizing on it?

Oh, BTW - happy birthday.

Dan Kelly

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Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 12:43:32 PM »
I've worked my ass off from my mid-twenties up until today (early 30s).  I have a lot of cool things to show for it and a family that sees a good amount of me but certainly not enough. ....did I/am I wasting my youth or capitalizing on it?

Sounds as though you're capitalizing on it.

What Tom said is true, of course.

He might have added: Knowing, at a young age, exactly what you want to do with your life ... and having the opportunity to pursue it ... and having the talent to pull it off ... are even greater advantages.
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Peter Pallotta

Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 01:00:19 PM »
Yup, Dan - that is correct.

Reminds me of the old Indian/Hindu ordering of life: from birth to 25 is a time of learning and of taking from the world; from 25-50 is a time for expressing yourself/participating fully in life, to benefit yourself and your family (i.e. accumulating) and the world (i.e. producing); from 50-75 is a time for giving back, through sharing your goods and wisdom and experience and passing them on to the next generation; and if you're fortunate enough to live past 75, all your obligations to the world are done, and you can wander off into the woods (metaphorically or literally) to commune with god and with Self, in preparation for the transition to the beyond.  

Makes a lot of sense; and it certainly beats wandering around in your late 40s and 50s wishing you were at another stage of life and thereby missing the meaning and value of the one you're actually living.  Or as Camus said (I think): The only sin a man can commit is one against his own nature.

Happy birthday gents!

Peter
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Dan Kelly

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Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 01:13:51 PM »
Reminds me of the old Indian/Hindu ordering of life: from birth to 25 is a time of learning and of taking from the world; from 25-50 is a time for expressing yourself/participating fully in life, to benefit yourself and your family (i.e. accumulating) and the world (i.e. producing); from 50-75 is a time for giving back, through sharing your goods and wisdom and experience and passing them on to the next generation; and if you're fortunate enough to live past 75, all your obligations to the world are done, and you can wander off into the woods (metaphorically or literally) to commune with god and with Self, in preparation for the transition to the beyond.  

Makes a lot of sense; and it certainly beats wandering around in your late 40s and 50s wishing you were at another stage of life and thereby missing the meaning and value of the one you're actually living.  Or as Camus said (I think): The only sin a man can commit is one against his own nature.

Excellent! I've never heard that division of the ages. I'll try to keep it in mind as I make my way through Shakespeare's stages (no pun intended!):

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

It's always hard to live in the present -- isn't it? (It is, for me -- though I'm getting better at it ... perhaps the ONLY thing I'm getting better at! [Every emoticon ever conceived, omitted.])
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Peter Pallotta

Re: GCAer Happy Birthdays!
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 02:20:41 PM »
I know what you mean, Dan.  By that Hindu schematic, I'll have to live until 125 to make it all work out. (I think I lost or misplaced 25 years somewhere - sometime between 1985 and 2010, I think.  Hmmm - just about the same time this 'renaissance' was taking place. Interesting).

Ah, Shakespeare - put together Ross and Mackenzie and CBM and Fowler and a few more and you still don't get the breadth and depth of expression in their field as Shakespeare got in his. 

P

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