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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2010, 03:21:46 AM »
In truth, St.Andrews Day (like St.Georges Day) is something of a non-event... Nothing like Patricks Day in Ireland...

I think the Scots should concentrate more on Burns night (Jan 25th) as there is a whole host of tradition and celebration behind that... Make it a bank holiday and promote it worldwide...

In fact, the Irish now have Arthur Guinness Day as well... Into its second year and a roaring success... The Irish do know how to make a party out of nothing, I have to say...

I don't know, Ally. I think it may have cost them something like 74bn euros so far... :(
FBD.

We worry about the cost along with the hangover when we wake up the next day / decade, Marty... I wish it were only 74 billion

Mark Chaplin

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2010, 03:29:22 AM »
Sean - the church is the only thing we haven't sold out to Europe on, yet.
Cave Nil Vino

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2010, 03:59:31 AM »
St Andrews Day is hard for me to escape.  Our village church is nmaed for the patron Saint of Scotland and flies the colours each St Andrews Day.  However, I don't celebrate no protestant days.  I can recall one cheeky bugger trying to convince me to donate monthly to the church.  I calmly - explained that I am a Catholic.  He didn't see any reason why I couldn't continue to be a Catholic and give money to protestants.  He lost the argument and I kept my money.  The lack of separation between church and state is one of the things I hate most about living in England. 

Ciao


But...



...St Andrew was the first of Jesus's disciples - the brother of St Peter, no less. He was adopted as the patron saint of Scotland in around the ninth century and his relics lie in the Roman Catholic Metropolitan Cathedral of St Mary in Edinburgh.

In what sense then, is St Andrew a protestant saint or his day a 'protestant day'?   ;D

I agree entirely with your views on disestablishmentarianism, although from the viewpoint of a staunch athiest rather than as a member of an alternative subsect of the same religion. I can't say that I or anyone else has ever noticed or commented on being repressed, controlled or manipulated by a state religion in England. The C of E is actually a rather pathetic collection of well-meaning but bumbling old men and women in silly hats. Technically I guess, I'm a member, having been cruelly baptised without my consent at the age of six months.

I must say that I find myself in agreement with your thwarted funds collector; on my frequent and inspiring visits to the great cathedrals of this and other European countries I have always happliy made a financial contribution without regard to the current denomination of the building in question.

 ;)

Duncan



Rory Connaughton

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2010, 09:53:17 AM »
Ally:

  My father the Dub always gave me the impression that St. Patrick's day was a far bigger occasion in the States, particularly New York and Boston (as a day to celebrate ethnic pride) than it was in Ireland.  I understand that it is now more of an occasion but still not to the degree it is here.

Michael Dugger

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2010, 11:30:07 AM »
Is this what gca.com has come to?

What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it?     --Alistair Mackenzie--

Jim Thompson

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2010, 12:09:20 AM »
Bogey,

I'd be happy to take you curling if you ever get up here!

Cheers!

JT
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Tim Bert

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2010, 01:09:15 AM »
You can't make me feel guilty ... I wished a Scot that works with me "Happy St. Andrews Day" yesterday and then curled 8 ends in the evening.

Dan, I don't keep a bucket list but darned do I want to try curling.

To all, please send me an IM if you would host me for a curling outing this winter - ideally near a major airport served by Southwest where I can make it a day trip.

Bogey

Dear Bogey -

I have once curled and the experience was simply thrilling. My experience as in Canada. As recently as 4 years ago (I havent checked since) Franklin, TN had a curling club that offered open visits to the public at certain times at the Southern Ice Center. I'd certainly be up to curl a few ends locally if such an opportunity still exists. I'll be your sweeper any time.

Sean_A

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Re: O/T So what happened to St Andrews Day
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2010, 04:32:58 AM »
St Andrews Day is hard for me to escape.  Our village church is nmaed for the patron Saint of Scotland and flies the colours each St Andrews Day.  However, I don't celebrate no protestant days.  I can recall one cheeky bugger trying to convince me to donate monthly to the church.  I calmly - explained that I am a Catholic.  He didn't see any reason why I couldn't continue to be a Catholic and give money to protestants.  He lost the argument and I kept my money.  The lack of separation between church and state is one of the things I hate most about living in England. 

Ciao


But...



...St Andrew was the first of Jesus's disciples - the brother of St Peter, no less. He was adopted as the patron saint of Scotland in around the ninth century and his relics lie in the Roman Catholic Metropolitan Cathedral of St Mary in Edinburgh.

In what sense then, is St Andrew a protestant saint or his day a 'protestant day'?   ;D

I agree entirely with your views on disestablishmentarianism, although from the viewpoint of a staunch athiest rather than as a member of an alternative subsect of the same religion. I can't say that I or anyone else has ever noticed or commented on being repressed, controlled or manipulated by a state religion in England. The C of E is actually a rather pathetic collection of well-meaning but bumbling old men and women in silly hats. Technically I guess, I'm a member, having been cruelly baptised without my consent at the age of six months.

I must say that I find myself in agreement with your thwarted funds collector; on my frequent and inspiring visits to the great cathedrals of this and other European countries I have always happliy made a financial contribution without regard to the current denomination of the building in question.

 ;)

Duncan




Duncan

Of course churches of all persuasions share saints, but that in no way implies that they celebrate the lives of each saint in the same way or that each celebration carries the same meaning.  Linking St Andrew to the liturgy of the Church of Scotland (or England) is in and of itself a very different thing than to the Catholic church and so the essence of the celebration is profoundly altered. 

I am against State and Church being on bed together because it makes for bad politics in the sense of a republican government meant to be representing all citizens in an equal and fair manner.  I don't personally feel oppressed other than money local precept being granted to the church to aid in repairs (so I am forced to make a donation to a religious organization which has in fact oppressed followers of my religion to devastating effect) and my daughter having to attend a C of E school (a school which my taxes support) or me being forced to move or go private.  One and only one religion was practiced in the school and while I am old enough to ignore it (and did), it was a bit much to expect my daughter to do so - though she did manage okay - reluctantly.  All that said, it wasn't so bad for our family, but I can just imagine what Muslims must think.   

In terms of enjoying and preserving the architecture of protestant churches, I have no problem donating, but on my own terms.  I certainly won't be tythed to any protestant church.  It still rankles that my wife and I weren't allowed to be married in the local church of her parents' home because I was a Catholic and my wife wasn't baptised (funnily enough this was something I found out on the spot in front of the vicar - tee hee).  Its okay to take our money, but not okay to provide a service.  Sorry, I have little time for this sort of attitude.  We were married in the USA - probably much better off for it, but it wasn't the traditional setting my wife wanted.  The wonderful thing about all this is I am not even a practicing Catholic - ha!

Ciao
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