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Craig Van Egmond

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Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« on: September 23, 2010, 02:48:01 PM »
Sorry if this has already been posted, but I saw it on Geoff's site..

http://www.symposiumonaffordablegolf.com/default.htm

Way to go Richard Mandell!
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Kris Shreiner

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 06:26:26 PM »
Sounds wonderful...and long overdue! I'm all in. Thanks Richard, Ran and the rest of the cast.
"I said in a talk at the Dunhill Tournament in St. Andrews a few years back that I thought any of the caddies I'd had that week would probably make a good golf course architect. We all want to ask golfers of all abilities to get more out of their games -caddies do that for a living." T.Doak

Mac Plumart

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 06:29:32 PM »
Kris...I agree this sounds like excellent stuff.

I don't know if this is related or not, but I also read aboout Links Magazine's Simpler Game concept.  I think it might go hand in hand with Richard's Symposium.

http://www.linksmagazine.com/best_of_golf/a_simpler_game/section_index.aspx
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

Matt Day

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 08:29:13 PM »
do they need any Aussies to contribute, we know how to do affordable golf quite well  :)

Richard_Mandell

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 09:03:32 AM »
No congratulations are in order.  Attendance is in order.  We need as many people to come to the Symposium on Affordable Golf as possible.  There is no cost, so you just have to get yourself to Southern Pines on November 8th and stick around for golf at SPCC the next morning if you can.

The goal with this thing is to not just get the usual industry people involved, but also regular golfers.  We are working on getting continuing ed points for supers and golf pros as well.  Here are the topics:

Define “Affordable”    
                    Group Discussion
8:15 to 9:15

Environmental Tasks That Can Also Make The Game More Affordable
Ron Boyd, Williamsburg  Environmental Group, Inc.
Greg Lyman, GCSAA
Kevin Fletcher, Audubon International

The Simplicity of Golf Course Management in the British Isles
Steven Richardson, Golf Course Manager, Sunningdale Golf Club (New)

Case Study #1:  To Be Determined

Cost-Conscious Lessons to Learn From the Golden Age   
 
Richard Mandell
Ron Forse                                   
Ran Morrisett
     
Case Study #2:  Herndon Centennial Golf Course, Herndon, Virginia

Pace of Play:  Affordable Golf is Quality Golf                              
Bill Yates, Pace Manager Systems

The Folly of Replicating Tournament Conditions    
Tim Moraghan, Aspire Consulting
Jaime Diaz, Senior Golf Writer, Golf Digest/Golf World
Jim Moriarty, Golf Writer


Wrap-Up Discussion/Conversation
 

Tuesday, November 9 – Golf Outing on Southern Pines Golf Club ($35)

ALTHOUGH THERE IS NO COST TO ATTEND THE SYMPOSIUM, WE DO NEED EVERYONE TO SIGN UP SO WE CAN HAVE A HEAD COUNT.  Register at www.symposiumonaffordablegolf.com
   

Kris Shreiner

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 04:58:01 PM »
JC, I bumped this for you and the rest of the band on GCA. While I've yet to commit formally, I will be there if I'm breathing. It is somewhat surprising that there hasn't been more banter on this most important matter plaguing our game worldwide.

Many on this site have crowed loudly about the need for affordable golf. Talk's cheap! Be a part of the solution. Some talented, busy folks have been moved enough to arrange this and then issue a call for action. Unless we're content to act the part of armchair phonies, it's time to step it up a little if you can and make an effort.

Cheers  8)
"I said in a talk at the Dunhill Tournament in St. Andrews a few years back that I thought any of the caddies I'd had that week would probably make a good golf course architect. We all want to ask golfers of all abilities to get more out of their games -caddies do that for a living." T.Doak

JC Jones

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 05:11:40 PM »
Very cool.  I look forward to participating.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 01:33:45 PM »
Richard,

Thank you for pulling this event together. I will do everything in my power to be there... but, it will be tough as I will be in the middle of moving from South Carolina to New York. I wish we had know about this when we were planning the Dixie Cup as it would have been a great complement to that event.

I CANNOT BELIEVE that this thread has less than 500 views!!!

Especially when "Who Designed Shawnee" (which was started about the same time) has over 3400. Who gives a crap who designed Shawnee?

Furthering the efforts to promote affordable golf should be one of the primary goals of this web fraternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why does everyone seem so apathetic to this cause?

I hope everyone within driving distance will make every effort to attend this symposium. Hell, if nothing else, you will get a chance to finally meet your fearless leader, Ran!
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2010, 02:00:44 PM »

Many on this site have crowed loudly about the need for affordable golf. Talk's cheap! Be a part of the solution. Some talented, busy folks have been moved enough to arrange this and then issue a call for action. Unless we're content to act the part of armchair phonies, it's time to step it up a little if you can and make an effort.


Kris,
How can someone from this board be part of the solution (if they are not building their own golf course)?
This board is already mostly about great golf that makes sense $wise.

Michael
Good luck on the move.
Does Mandell want Ranatics at the event?
How does that help affordable golf?

Cheers
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2010, 02:15:48 PM »

Many on this site have crowed loudly about the need for affordable golf. Talk's cheap! Be a part of the solution. Some talented, busy folks have been moved enough to arrange this and then issue a call for action. Unless we're content to act the part of armchair phonies, it's time to step it up a little if you can and make an effort.


Kris,
How can someone from this board be part of the solution (if they are not building their own golf course)?
This board is already mostly about great golf that makes sense $wise.

Michael
Good luck on the move.
Does Mandell want Ranatics at the event?
How does that help affordable golf?

Cheers

Mike - I just think that the more attention this gets the better. It's just like our food supply... you only get what you vote for every week with your money. If golfers truly want the kind of courses that I assume this symposium will propose then they should shout its praises.

As for New York... it will be quite an adventure. My wife's business is taking us to Manhattan for a year!!! We move the first week of November.
"Solving the paradox of proportionality is the heart of golf architecture."  - Tom Doak (11/20/05)

Eric Smith

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 02:43:15 PM »
I will be in attendance both days, representing St. Alberts By The Barn in my current dual capacity as both Chief Executive Dreamer and Assistant Hay Baler.

Anybody want to try to play the Dormie Club while there?
« Last Edit: October 12, 2010, 08:25:43 PM by Eric Smith »

Pat Burke

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 03:17:57 PM »
Well, I for one, can't afford to travel across country to attend ;)
I hope something productive is done.  Will SPCC become accessible to the public at a low price? ;D

There is no doubt that something needs to be done.  Many in here ARE trying to do things.


Kris Shreiner

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2010, 03:42:15 PM »
Mike,

Are you kidding? We can all be part of the discussion my friend. You certainly are trying to create greatness on an affordable model when possible. I've spent considerable time speaking with your Mike Blake, who has shared considerable, valuable insights from
his perspective, that have help increase my awareness from a design standpoint.

Illumination can't begin without discussion. Where it falls flat, is when that's where it ends. We have stuffed suits in abundance, that have all the answers in the conference setting, and do little beynd that to make a real difference.

That's certainly not me. I'm sorry you couldn't make the Muccifest. It was a day filled with stimulating education, on multiple levels. The kind of thing that is in drastically short supply, gathering from my travels. While it wasn't centered around affordable golf, numerous principles offered applied.

When we keep a broad, open mind...it's amazing where some very good ideas and practices can materialize from. If that puts me in the Ranatics camp...sign me up! 8)

"I said in a talk at the Dunhill Tournament in St. Andrews a few years back that I thought any of the caddies I'd had that week would probably make a good golf course architect. We all want to ask golfers of all abilities to get more out of their games -caddies do that for a living." T.Doak

JC Jones

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2010, 03:43:42 PM »

Many on this site have crowed loudly about the need for affordable golf. Talk's cheap! Be a part of the solution. Some talented, busy folks have been moved enough to arrange this and then issue a call for action. Unless we're content to act the part of armchair phonies, it's time to step it up a little if you can and make an effort.


Kris,
How can someone from this board be part of the solution (if they are not building their own golf course)?
This board is already mostly about great golf that makes sense $wise.

Michael
Good luck on the move.
Does Mandell want Ranatics at the event?
How does that help affordable golf?

Cheers

Mike,

To echo the gentleman from South Carolina's comments, you are the solution.  You vote with your money and consumer/investor/etc. behavior remains the single best way to affect change.

That is precisely why I am interested in the symposium.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Carl Rogers

Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2010, 03:59:33 PM »
Will the text and pictures of the gathering be a available?
Bios on the speakers?

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 06:55:45 PM »
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Sean Leary

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2010, 07:20:58 PM »

ed_getka

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2010, 09:57:41 PM »
A really great event right in my backyard and I am going to be in California having dental work those days. The golf gods are tormenting me. :'(
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2010, 10:54:41 PM »
Mike & Kris
I wasn't commenting on the event.
I was commenting on your negativity towards the group for not giving this thread more attention.

This site has had more discussions about how great golf and price are not directly correlated - than any where else in the world.

JC
When exactly do I play golf?
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Mike McGuire

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2010, 09:35:13 AM »
Any chance to set up a video camera and stream the speakers over the internet so we all can watch?

Ustream.tv is one service that is free.

JC Jones

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2010, 09:39:29 AM »

JC
When exactly do I play golf?


How would I know? 

You are right though, I should not have used the very casual "generic you" or "indefinite you."  A more proper statement would have been .... one votes with their money.....

I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

PCCraig

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2010, 09:42:58 AM »
Seems like an interesting couple of days. But as I'm not "in" the industry it's tough to justify the fee...
H.P.S.

Chris Shaida

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Re: Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2010, 10:01:13 AM »
I will be in attendance both days, representing St. Alberts By The Barn in my current dual capacity as both Chief Executive Dreamer and Assistant Hay Baler.

Anybody want to try to play the Dormie Club while there?

I'm going to try to participate in the event and I'd be interested in playing the Dormie Club before or after.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 10:04:04 AM »
A really great event right in my backyard and I am going to be in California having dental work those days. The golf gods are tormenting me. :'(

Is that why you aren't coming to make at least a cameo at the Dixie Cup?   ???

Brandon Skopelja

Re: Join Ran Morrisett at the Affordable Golf Symposium!
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2010, 04:25:11 PM »
I just registered. I think i will be coming up that Friday. I would definately be down to play Dormie or some other places if anybody is interested.

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