Suffolk County Country Club / Timber Point

[George_Bahto]

There is an article from the NY Times (wadda great paper  ) that speaks of Suffolk County CC to be built in East Islip, Long Island.

I don't think it was ever built.

Did it morphe into Timber Point?

I've spoken to MGA historian Bill Quirin and Newsweek's Jeff Williams - no iformation on the subject

link to the article:   http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9E0CE6DD133FE233A25756C1A96E9C946496D6CF

Timber Point was not built on the Hollins property - this was to be built on Hollins' property. The properties were close by, looking at Google Earth

anyone have ANSWERS (not questions)

[Joe Bausch]

Not an answer George, but at least not a question.   

The Daily Eagle also reported on this story the same day (August 15, 1915).

[George_Bahto]

Thanks Joe - that's basically the same article:

here is what I transcribed fm the NY TImes:

The New York Times
Published: August 15, 1915


NEW GOLF COURSE AT ISLIP

Proposed Suffolk County country Club to Build Links on Great South Bay

   Invitations for membership in a proposed golf and country club, on the south side of Long Island, have been sent out by a committee composed of Henry W. Bull, Jay F. Carlisle, George A. Ellis, Jr., Bayard C. Hoppin, George Huhn, Jr., Louis Livingston, William Raynor. Simons, and Langdon K. Thorne.
   It has been whispered for months that many lovers of golf who have their homes on the south side of the island were contemplating the construction of a new course. The committee chose the property owned by Harry B. Hollins, Jr. and Gerald V. Hollins, at Islip, as the best location for the links. The properties chosen comprise 120 acres of upland and meadow land, fronting the Great South Bay. In choosing this tract the committee consulted with four golf experts: Mr. Skinner, of the United States Drainage and Irrigation Company; Mr. Raynor, constructor of the National Golf Links of America; C. B. Macdonald, designer of the National Golf Links, the Piping Rock, and Lido courses; Peter lees, greenkeeper of the Mid-Surrey Golf Club in England, now in charge of turfing at the Lido Course, Long Beach.
   The property chosen will have facilities for tennis, polo, shooting, fishing, boating, bathing, and horseback riding.
   The golf course will have eighteen holes in a length of 6,300 yards. The distance of the hoes is given in the prospectus:

   Out:   No. 1   420 yards       In:   No. 10   316 yards
   No. 2   440 yards   No. 11   178 yards
   No. 3   460 yards   No. 12   443 yards
   No. 4   160 yards   No. 13   525 yards
   No. 5   363 yards   No. 14   415 yards
   No. 6   183 yards   No. 15   366 yards
   No. 7   496 yards   No. 16   130 yards
   No. 8   325 yards   No. 17   550 yards
   No. 9   395 yards   No. 18   405 yards
totals             3,242 yards                  3,128 yards

   On the western side of the property a canal will be cut, and a yacht basin will be dug close to the clubhouse. This will enable members to reach the clubhouse by boat.
   It is proposed to finance the club by and issue of 1,125 shares of stock fo a par value of $200 a share. The maximum membership of the club is to be 400, but only 250 are to be enrolled at first.
   The grounds of the proposed club may be reached from the South Country Road by was of Bay View Avenue, East Islip. The drive from the main highway to the cub leads through wooded roads to Great South Bay. The name of the club will be Suffolk County Country Club.


The "question" thing was a joke - 

[Joe Bausch]

George, the first article below from 1923 talks about the progress of Timber Point and that it is being built on the former Davies estate.  The NY Times article mentions the proposed Suffolk County CC to use property owned by the Hollins fellows.

The second article from 1929 talks about some of the property in that area, with some land owned by Harry Hollins to the west, and the Timber Point Club to the east.

[Phil_the_Author]

Joe,

You beat me to the punch. The two properties are both separate and served as the central point in a confrontational power fight between Macy, Moses and the Governor of New York. At one point the governor even addressed the state legislature on the matter and tried to employ eminent domain to take the Timber Point club's land. It would go in and out of court for several years, with the end result being that big money (Macy) could delay the government action until the governor was voted out of office and a "friendlier" one stopped the fight.

There are a number of great articles about this, in fact I almost started a thread about this a few weeks back but simply didn't have the time to do so.

[George_Bahto]

thanks guys

[Mike Cirba]

David,

When did fox hills open?

How do we know that Garden City was highly regarded in the early 1900s, or that NGLA when opened was deemed the best course in the US, or that it was generally acknowledged that Pine Valley supplanted it within the decade?