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Will Peterson

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AACII - Entry #4
« on: May 16, 2010, 03:46:54 PM »
The course has yet to be named.  I thought of the site as very open, possibly former farmland, with lots of native grasses and fescue between the holes.  There are a few trees, but nothing that comes into play.  I don't have any experience with any of the drawing programs, so I drew the design by hand (and unlike one of the other entries, I lack any artistic ability).  Once I had a routing that I liked, I used paint.net and drew it in freehand.  Once that was finished I added the practice facilities (near the clubhouse and the large area in the SE corner) and clubhouse.

I do want to hear what others think about the design.  I did have a bit of an issue with drawing to scale, and I am not sure if all the holes would be able to be built in the real world. 



1 –  Par 4 - 465/420/375
The long opening hole has a generous fairway that slopes to the right.  Shots to the green from the right side of the fairway may be obscured by the hill, so a good tee shot will be drawn into the slope of the hill.  The green is guarded by a bunker on the right, and the left side is cut as fairway which will allow for balls to feed onto the putting surface.   There is a large green with a collection area in back.
2- Par 3 – 225/185/150
Slightly downhill par 3 with water coming into play on the right side.  Large green sits below the surrounding a fairway and is divided into two distinct tiers.  Shots can be run onto the green.
3 – Par 4 – 445/400/340
This middle length par 4 has a very undulating fairway which has a high center and feeds balls off the each side where they may find a bunker.  A drive to the right may not have a view of the green.   The green is tucked against a large hill that will be covered in long rough (3-5”) that will be playable, but incredibly difficult.  The green slopes from right to left and has a large false front on the left.
4 – Par 4 – 410/370/305
This par 4 plays downhill off the tee and back uphill to a perched green that is surrounded by fairway that will feed the ball away from the putting surface.  A drive down the right can catch the hill giving it some extra distance, but if it is not place well a bunker awaits.  The green has a raised back tier and falls off sharply on all sides.  A shot missed to the left will be an extremely difficult up and down.
5 – Par 4 – 430/390/315
Downhill tee shot requires accuracy, not distance, and requires the player to hit a narrowing fairway the further they try to hit it.  The green sits up on a hill fronted by a large bunker and surrounded by fairway that slopes away from the green.  There is room in front for bailouts or layups if a drive does not find the fairway.  A very large green with a right and left tier that are essentially two small greens connected.
6 – Par 5 – 560/515/465
This par 5 snakes along the creek for its entirety.  The landing area is pinched by a bunker on the left, so if the green is going to be reached in two a player must be bold and accurate.  There is ample room short of the bunker if the player wants to make it a three shot hole.  The layup is to a wide fairway that has water on the right.  Players who try to go for it in two must carry it the whole way, but there is plenty of room to the left of the green to bail.  The third is the difficult shot on this hole.  The green is tucked in a bend in the creek.  The front section is quite narrow and slopes towards the water.  Shots a little short with spin will find the hazard.  The rest of the green is shallow so any errors in yardage will find the fairway collection areas surrounding the green.
7 – Par 3 – 165/150/100
Short uphill par 3 guarded by two large bunkers.  There is no fairway bailout area on this hole.  The green slopes from back to front and the front part of the green feeds into the bunker.
8 – Par 4 – 390/365/305
This short par 4 plays slightly downhill off the tee and back uphill to the green.  The ideal line to approach the green is from the left which is flanked by a bunker.  There is also a bunker at the end of the fairway to catch those that try to blast one off the tee.  The front of the green is protected by a large bunker on the right and a small bunker of the left.  The green slopes from front to back with a collection area behind the green feeding balls away from the putting surface.  A shot from the front bunker that is not played correctly may feed all the way down the hill over the green.
9 – Par 4 – 450/430/375
The tee shot is played downhill to a flat and the rest of the hole goes gently uphill to the green.  The large green slopes from the back and has a distinct front and back section.  There is a gentle slope behind the green that will be kept as rough leaving a downhill lie to a green sloping away from the player.

10 – Par 4 – 415/380/325
A massive fairway is littered with small bunkers.  The best line to the green is from the left but that line narrows the further you hit it.  The front right of the green is a large false front that feeds into the bunker or water.  The rest of the green is rather flat, so a good shot could leave a makeable putt.
11 – Par 4 – 470/420/360
This is a long par 4 with the fairway sloping to the left which will allow a good tee shot to run down the hill into the ideal spot to approach the green.  The green sits slightly above the fairway but below its surroundings.  This will allow shots to feed onto the green, but if one does not make it to the putting surface the chips will be difficult.  The green feeds to the center with a raised back section that will allow for a great Sunday pin.
12 – Par 3 – 240/190/165
This long par 3 plays uphill to a large green with bunkers on each side.  The green slopes from back to front with a small false front that will feed balls just below the green in the fairway.
13 – Par 5 – 625/580/500
This very long par 5 has a generous landing area off the tee.  The second shot will force the player to choose that yardage he would like for his third.  A narrowing fairway will require an accurate layup to be able to attack on the third.  The green sits in a bowl that is raised above the fairway and will be surrounded with rough, so a miss will leave a downhill lie out of thick grass.  The back section of the green will act like a punchbowl feeding shots to the center.  A wedge from the fairway should be easy to get close, but failure to do so will leave tough up and downs.
14 – Par 3 – 185/160/115
This short par three has three bunkers guarding the front and sides of the green.  The back is open and falls away shapely downhill.  The hill is steep enough that any shot that goes off the back of the green will roll the bottom of the fairway leaving a pitch of 35 yards uphill to the green.  The green is relatively flat, but is gently crowned to feed balls off the sides.
15 – Par 4 – 425/380/330
The player must decide how much they want to cut off on the tee shot.  The large bunker of the left sits below the fairway and will leave a very tough shot to the green.  The green sits in a bowl and is surrounded by bunkers.  The green will have three distinct sections with the left the lowest, middle highest, and right in the middle.
16 – Par 4 – 445/400/340
This mid length par 4 tees off from a ridge over a hill to a fairway that sits in a low area.  The left side is a steep hill that will be covered in rough and make hitting the green in regulation quite a chore.  The green sits above the fairway and sits in an amphitheatre.  The green has a lower middle section with the areas around it raised up.
17 – Par 4 – 330/295/240
This is a short par 4 that plays out to a ledge with the green sitting below the fairway.  The green is fronted by a large bunker to collect poor tee shots to the green or layup tee shots that run too far.  The green is very large and has three distinct sections.  There is a front, middle, and back portion that will play like separate greens.  The center of the green will feed balls to the bunker on the right and the entire left side will fall off to the fairway that surrounds the green.
18 – Par 4 – 440/405/340
The finishing hole sits on a ridge and has an undulating fairway.  The tee shot must take into consideration the amount to cut off and the roll in the sloping fairway.  The second shot will be played downhill to a smaller green.  Tee shots that are played safe to the right will face a long shot down the hill that has no place to bail.  The two tiered green is surrounded by bunkers.

Garland Bayley

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Re: AACII - Entry #4
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2010, 11:55:14 AM »
Let's call it Rollicking Links.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Garland Bayley

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Re: AACII - Entry #4
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 01:12:56 AM »
Mike didn't like Will finishing in the depression. But I really liked #15 (although I would have moved the green a little) and #17. So I didn't think the finish was that weak. #18 was the weakest of his finishing 4 for me, but you often see that given you need to finish at the club house (unless of course you name is Tom Doak and you are building Black Forest). Anyone else find redeeming qualities in the finishing 4 holes?

 
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne